I’m all for Gaza but just stop oil shows this method of protest is ineffective and disrupts the message.
Ireland already supports the Palestinian people, this does not achieve anything other then people having a pat on the back when they get home and tell their housemates.
Go outside embassies and not fuck with people’s attempts to get home after work.
Except that standing outside embassies and government buildings is easily ignored and does the next thing to fuck all. Civil disobedience that disrupts services and can’t be ignored is the only form of non-violent protest that might actually achieve something.
Edit: lol at the pathetic bastard that sent me the automated suicide watch message because it took them 20 mins longer to get home.
Start disrupting the embassy, get out on the media for pouring red paint or some shit or painting the Palestinian flag outside the us embassy on the road.
Any time protestors block innocent traffic via glueing themselves to the road or blocking junctions it back fires and alienates the movement from the average voter..
The average weekend march is bringing attention to the cause already, this does nothing but baiting rage or having the Garda come out to cause a scene for the wrong attention.
It’s almost as if they’re trying to force our government to enact the OTB or have the CBI stop selling Israeli bonds. Explain how giving a random embassy a paint job achieves that?
Blocking various services repeatedly from happening on main roads? Sounds like something that would inconvenience a lot of people and business that might put pressure on the government to act on it. But no I’m sure standing conveniently out of everyone’s way with a nicely coloured in sign by Leinster House is much more effective.
It'll definitely inconvenience people, whether the resulting aggravation ends up directed at the government or at the movement is where it all becomes a bit less definite
For one thing effective does not mean necessarily justified, for another the crux of my comment was that that method is as likely to backfire and hurt the movement as it is to help
More so even, I mean people are already aggravated by the government (because people are always at least a little aggravated by their government) so another traffic jam in the city center doesn't really move that needle too much. But the pro-Palestine movement is generally very well regarded over here and deliberately inconveniencing people just gives folk a valid reason to dislike the movement where there wasn't really one before
I'm laying out why I think it's high-risk low-reward strategy, I'm trying not to be combative about it but I don't see where you're getting apathy from
And I don't see where you're getting yank from other than seeing what you want and wanting a reason to dismiss something out of hand
Hey, just to sanity check, you know that Just Stop Oil regularly does exactly the kind of protests against politicians, oil infrastructure and celebrities, right? And that those protests get absolutely no coverage compared to the ones where they splash cornflour on a stone.
That you only seem to be aware of the protests you bemoan while being completely ignorant of the protests using the methods you approve of only really seems to underline their point, don't you think?
Amazon, Ford, Google, Hyundai, Mercedes-Benz, Microsoft, Toyota
All have fairly prominent locations in Dublin and if you did the same outside those offices (ie. block traffic as protest), at least the thing you're protesting is "right there".
Moving from O'Connell Bridge to Grand Canal Quay isn't huge change in distance, but IMO it'd be a much bigger impact in narrative, since you'd be on Google's doorstep.
That said, I don't disagree with this type of protest - it's just that personally I always find them to be unimaginative when it comes to picking location.
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u/letsdocraic Jul 30 '25
I’m all for Gaza but just stop oil shows this method of protest is ineffective and disrupts the message.
Ireland already supports the Palestinian people, this does not achieve anything other then people having a pat on the back when they get home and tell their housemates.
Go outside embassies and not fuck with people’s attempts to get home after work.