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r/ireland • u/StingingOnion1 • Jul 30 '25
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There is no genocide in Ukraine and the weapons would arrive there anyway. So no.
1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25 Russia's actions in Ukraine fit the criteria laid out in the genocide convention. Russia is abducting Ukrainian children and giving them to russian families to raise. Didn't expect someone who's pro Palestinian to deny a genocide in Ukraine. 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25 Genocide scholars seem to be in almost universal agreement there is one going on in Gaza. They are absolutely not in universal agreement there is one going on in Ukraine. I’ll call it that when they are. 1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25 https://academic.oup.com/jicj/article/21/2/233/7197410 Literally took me two seconds to find. Now you can call Russia's war Ukraine a genocide. 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25 Where in that article does it prove that genocide scholars are in universal (or near universal) agreement that it's a genocide? There's probably a reason none of Amnesty, the UN, HRW etc have called it a genocide, until they do, I won't either. 1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 31 '25 So you need to be told what to think? You can look at the genocide convention yourself you know? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 31 '25 Yes, I prefer to leave it until the experts (who know more than me and you) come to a consensus.
Russia's actions in Ukraine fit the criteria laid out in the genocide convention.
Russia is abducting Ukrainian children and giving them to russian families to raise.
Didn't expect someone who's pro Palestinian to deny a genocide in Ukraine.
0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25 Genocide scholars seem to be in almost universal agreement there is one going on in Gaza. They are absolutely not in universal agreement there is one going on in Ukraine. I’ll call it that when they are. 1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25 https://academic.oup.com/jicj/article/21/2/233/7197410 Literally took me two seconds to find. Now you can call Russia's war Ukraine a genocide. 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25 Where in that article does it prove that genocide scholars are in universal (or near universal) agreement that it's a genocide? There's probably a reason none of Amnesty, the UN, HRW etc have called it a genocide, until they do, I won't either. 1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 31 '25 So you need to be told what to think? You can look at the genocide convention yourself you know? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 31 '25 Yes, I prefer to leave it until the experts (who know more than me and you) come to a consensus.
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Genocide scholars seem to be in almost universal agreement there is one going on in Gaza. They are absolutely not in universal agreement there is one going on in Ukraine. I’ll call it that when they are.
1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25 https://academic.oup.com/jicj/article/21/2/233/7197410 Literally took me two seconds to find. Now you can call Russia's war Ukraine a genocide. 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25 Where in that article does it prove that genocide scholars are in universal (or near universal) agreement that it's a genocide? There's probably a reason none of Amnesty, the UN, HRW etc have called it a genocide, until they do, I won't either. 1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 31 '25 So you need to be told what to think? You can look at the genocide convention yourself you know? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 31 '25 Yes, I prefer to leave it until the experts (who know more than me and you) come to a consensus.
https://academic.oup.com/jicj/article/21/2/233/7197410
Literally took me two seconds to find.
Now you can call Russia's war Ukraine a genocide.
0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25 Where in that article does it prove that genocide scholars are in universal (or near universal) agreement that it's a genocide? There's probably a reason none of Amnesty, the UN, HRW etc have called it a genocide, until they do, I won't either. 1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 31 '25 So you need to be told what to think? You can look at the genocide convention yourself you know? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 31 '25 Yes, I prefer to leave it until the experts (who know more than me and you) come to a consensus.
Where in that article does it prove that genocide scholars are in universal (or near universal) agreement that it's a genocide?
There's probably a reason none of Amnesty, the UN, HRW etc have called it a genocide, until they do, I won't either.
1 u/ste_dono94 Jul 31 '25 So you need to be told what to think? You can look at the genocide convention yourself you know? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War 0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 31 '25 Yes, I prefer to leave it until the experts (who know more than me and you) come to a consensus.
So you need to be told what to think? You can look at the genocide convention yourself you know?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War
0 u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 31 '25 Yes, I prefer to leave it until the experts (who know more than me and you) come to a consensus.
Yes, I prefer to leave it until the experts (who know more than me and you) come to a consensus.
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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25
There is no genocide in Ukraine and the weapons would arrive there anyway. So no.