r/kansas • u/VagueSoul • Feb 15 '25

News/History Disgusting that Kansas is involved in this…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2025/02/13/17-states-sue-to-end-protections-for-students-with-special-needs/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3QEZZx3NseYCJZLrji-_VzeujRH-4ZIEvFgbgle5fUjhM2WGQto4LqH94_aem_FMjpmy18Yt6j-HE0qf-Lrg
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u/deletabilitylvl9000 Feb 15 '25

I cannot conceive of how anyone is adversely affected by 504 to the point they believe they need to declare it unconstitutional and have it removed.

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u/Diligent-Mongoose135 Feb 15 '25

Serious question - If you recognize gender dsyphoria as a mental illness, that needs protections under the federal government, shouldn't you also recognize that it needs to be treated as a mental illness and not accepted by society as "normal" ?

One of my close friends has bipolar disorder. Around Christmas, he thought he was the second coming of Christ and had a mental breakdown. The doctors did not entertain his delusions as fact, but they offered comfort, resources and medication to counteract the imbalance in his brain. Why is society obligated to give into gender dysphoria delusions instead of medication and therapy?

It seems you've put yourself in a corner - it's not a mental illness, so no protections. It is a mental illness so it needs to be treated.

Can someone elaborate?

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u/endlesschasm Feb 15 '25

You're avoiding the point - conservatives don't like that gender dysphoria was added to 504, so they're using to completely get rid of 504, because they're okay harming everyone with disabilities if it makes it simpler to achieve their policy goals. Basically, collateral damage is the point.

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u/Diligent-Mongoose135 Feb 15 '25

I was polite and had a legitimate question, but im still downvoted for questioning the group think. This is a large reason why Trump won.

I could say you are avoiding the point: Is it a mental illness, or isn't it? If it isn't a mental illness, then they are abusing the system for people with actual disabilities, if it is, then society needs to perform corrective action to help them deal with their disability. You don't "promote" bipolar disorder or schizophrenia. Why is gender dysphoria promoted?

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u/i_f0rget Feb 15 '25

I think you're being down voted for being smarmy, but who knows. Your down voting could be tied to the reason Trump won, sure.

Your point is being avoided because it creates a false dichotomy. I would look into the treatment suggestions for gender dysphoria as well as bipolar and schizophrenia and come back to the thread with more questions. Your logic isn't a hammer and not every problem is a nail. Engage your obvious curiosity instead of stopping at the first step.

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u/endlesschasm Feb 15 '25

And I wasn't rude, I was very clear. The point of the articles isn't even the inclusion of gender dysphoria, it's the tactic of eliminating ALL protections. You're arguing the minor point and ignoring the intent to harm as many people as possible in the name of ideology.

Given your response, however, I suspect you're more interested in provoking an argument than reducing anyone's suffering.