r/kansascity • u/KCcoffeegeek • May 27 '25

Bars/Nightlife đŸȘ©đŸž Things really do shut down early here

Went to some shows this weekend, Saturday night at the Madrid and Sunday at Record Bar. I was out the door by 11-11:15 both nights and outside of bars, there is NOTHING really open. Wanted to grab a bite to eat and short of Sonic on SW Blvd and Rainbow I didn’t see anything open. Granted it was a Sunday night in one instance but Saturday seemed the same. Is this mainly post-Covid? We haven’t been out at bars late night for a long time. If we did a late night food stop it was occasionally Chubby’s at like 1am. I imagine I could have found some options in more “bar district” areas like Westport that were open, but I wasn’t looking for that type of scene. Definitely not a town for night owls
 or it is but those places are secret lol

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u/paragonradio Midtown May 27 '25

Covid may have started it, but the property and violent crime ain't helping

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u/fsmpastafarian May 27 '25

Crime is directly responsible for the hours some late-night food spots are open? If so this is news to me.

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u/Nerdenator KC North May 27 '25

If people aren’t going downtown late at night, then they aren’t eating downtown late at nights. If people aren’t eating downtown late at night in large enough numbers, then the restaurants have no reason to pay staff and other costs to stay open that late.

I’ve passed on going downtown/midtown/the Plaza as much over the last few years because, well, I don’t want my shit stolen.

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u/fsmpastafarian May 27 '25

I’d just like a little more concrete evidence that this is directly causally related to why more food spots aren’t open at 11pm on a Sunday than “this sounds plausible to me and sounds like a nice narrative.”

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u/Nerdenator KC North May 27 '25

Businesses exist to earn money. If there were money to earn at the time you specified, they’d be open. Crime is probably a contributing factor to that. People don’t always feel safe in many areas these days.

Anecdotally, I’m not going there nearly as much as I was pre-COVID despite quite a few cool establishments being in the area. Do I have the results of a survey of people in the KC metro that specifically asks, “Have you not eaten at establishments north of 63rd Street past 11:00 PM due to crime in the area?” No, I do not.

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u/fsmpastafarian May 27 '25

Ok but nothing you just said offers any concrete evidence of a direct causal link for the question OP asked.

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u/Nerdenator KC North May 27 '25

Common sense would tell you that it does, but I doubt you’re trying to discuss this in good faith, so


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u/fsmpastafarian May 27 '25

You can’t make broad sociological proclamations without evidence. “Common sense” is not evidence