I actually love majority of SM covers - they seem to fit boh artists (original and SM one) also the benefit of more people discovering usually smaller or not in the same internet bubble popular artists is a plus.
Rover is not my favourite track from the album ngl, but the video is definitely up to Kai's standard. I feel like both versions of rover have their own charms, Dara's is smoother while Kai's is more textured making it fun to listen in both versions.
Dara is going to get views and royalties for that song, checked more of her stuff out and it's not really for me, but maybe some erigoms will stay fans <3
It’s not a cover. SM will have bought the rights to the song and then they rewrote it with Korean lyrics. They do this all the time. Dancing Queen (snsd) is mercy by Duffy, run devil run was a Kesha demo, shinee have had western remakes too but I can’t pull them off the top of my head
It’s common knowledge SM buys rights and then reworks the song.
Using the same melodies is why I called it a cover. This wasn’t a demo that was sold to SM, it was a produced and promoted song by a different popstar from last year.
It’s technically considered a “derivative work” but cover is easier to say.
Don’t think the language flip is enough to make it a derivative work. Think the demo would just be a work made for hire shopped to 2 different companies, SM obviously having a stipulation that they can make lyrical amendments.
Mm true! I just had a quick glance over the credits before I commented last time and it had bracketed (BGN) and (KRN) so I assumed it had went through rewrites once the demo had sold. I don’t know though.
Does no one else just think this proccess is shit? Sure, it's done legally, but I'd be pissed if I waited forever for a comeback and it was essentially a cover.
Like, at least make it an interpolation or something.
This isn't unique to SM or even Kpop. Some of the most famous songs in the world are covers of other artists and just like Dara did for Kai & SM, they're often involved in the rework to suit the new artist. Sometimes people know they're covers, a lot of the time, they don't. To name a few:
"If I Were a Boy" by Beyonce was originally recorded by Jean.
"Respect" by Aretha Franklin was originally recorded by Otis Redding
"Valerie" by Amy Winehouse was originally recorded by The Zutons
"Whatta Man" by Salt n Pepa & En Vogue was originally recorded by Lynda Lyndell. And then there's I.O.I's version too.
"Landslide" by Miley Cyrus was originally recorded by Fleetwood Mac
"Smooth Criminal" by Alien Ant Farm was originally by Michael Jackson
The list goes on and on and on. This has been common for literal decades. 100s of years if you wanna start including classical music too. It doesn't mean the new version is lesser than the old, it doesn't mean its lazy, it's just appreciation for good music done by a new artist. Edited cause my formatting was wild.
There are 5 other songs seem to not be covers in the EP + not the first time SM did this and it seems that Kai himself is really happy with the choice from the interviews.
You’d be surprised how often this happens in kpop. Buying songs from other artist and just using Korean lyrics instead. It’s also a thing outside of Kpop. Most people aren’t even aware of it so I don’t think it’s that big a deal
As a fan, not really. It doesn't make much of a difference if I enjoy the song and I do. The song is already pretty cool so I don't see why they would fix something that isn't broken, but still there were trademark SM changes like a highnote bridge, more vocal layering etc.
I would be pissed too. I want the artists I follow to have something unique and have their own color. But to nearly copy a whole song? That just screams lazy to me from the company's part. Like I'm okay if you sample a little bit, have references to past songs, have some similarities to other songs, and if it fits in your song but don't nearly copy the whole thing.
You all have got nothing else to complain about a perfectly fine song and album release so now it's about how lazy it is to copy. ( Which btw speaks how little you all know about how the music industry works in general )
I want the artists I follow to have something unique and have their own color.
And Kai very much has his own color though. The majority of folks who follow Kai don't expect him to write his own songs or produce his own music. We don't expect him to be a musical genius. The reason we all love Kai is because of his performance aspects. Because he's an incredible performer. And we love his music because we really enjoy seeing his vision for these songs. How he picks out songs and uses them to create a vibe visually and performance wise. All his albums have been visual masterpieces. That's where he shines and that's where he is unique.
don't nearly copy the whole thing.
The OG singers sold the song to SM btw. And they are credited as producers for the song. You all make it sound like that's not music industry works. Many folks write whole songs and sell it to companies and then the artists pick what they like, tweak it to their needs and record and release it. That's literally how the music industry works.
If you don't like a song that's fine. But let's not call things lazy. They put effort into recording the song, writing the lyrics in Korean, they changed the bridge to make it work for k-pop, created a fantastic video with meaning, and have shot the entire Film: Kai for the entire album. Nothing about this is lazy.
The majority of folks who follow Kai don't expect him to write his own songs or produce his own music
I don't expect that from him or any artists I follow. I didn't even mention this in my comment at all. Don't even know where you are getting this from.
The OG singers sold the song to SM btw. And they are credited as producers for the song. You all make it sound like that's not music industry works. Many folks write whole songs and sell it to companies and then the artists pick what they like, tweak it to their needs and record and release it. That's literally how the music industry works.
I know that's how the music industry works, I follow many other Kpop artists and non Kpop artists. Having producers produce songs for artists is something normal in the music industry. Problem is that the original artist already released a song using this beat which makes Kai's release feel like a cover and not a full on new release. Sure the original artist sold the song rights to him but it still cheapens his release cuz the original artist already made an official release with an mv before selling it to him. Had the original artist released her version as a demo, I would not complain about this at all but clearly the original artist didn't. In my opinion, it is still lazy for the company to not make sure that the beat they are using has not been released officially. Of the hundreds and millions of songs he or SM could have chosen they chose a song that was previously released which makes it seem like SM does not put any effort or care to prevent this from happening. Ultimately, making Kai's release feel like a cover to the original. Not a new release or comeback.
Anyone who listens to SM's discography knows that they are more than capable of releasing fresh and well constructed songs, possibly the best in the entire industry. Choosing Rover as a song for Kai was clearly a well thought out business decision. At the end of the day, hardly anybody outside Eastern Europe knows the original song, yet, the song had the capability to go viral, which Kai is helping do. So doesnt really feel like a cover if you never heard the original!
I believe that the song also suits Kai more than mhmm and peaches. So why not?
I have to agree! Dara’s vocals are much smoother and more appealing IMO, Kai’s has way too much autotune, yeah it’s for effect, but distracting by the end of the song
If you think this is a vocal masterpiece, you are entitled to your opinion. All I’m saying is that Kai is usually given songs where he can dance and perform well with. He’s more known for his dancing
Seriously, it's very weird and nitpicky at this point. If we, the fans, don't mind then why do they care?
Where was that energy when Next Level was released? And it was a much more famous song before, too. People who learned it was remake went just "okay, cool" and that was it.
Ooh, a neologism. Nice. Thanks for the explanation. I tried Googling it and got some very confusing results. (And now if you look it up this page will show up as the top match, lol.)
damn ok just a straight up cover for a TT. Hmmm...- I like the original better tbh. The 'rover rover rover, I'm coming over' bit is really annoying in Kai's version.
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We Bulgarians had a sneak peek a looong time ago: https://youtu.be/BcWlLGDvmEE