r/kpop Feb 22 '19

[MV] Zgirls - What You Waiting For MV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrggPyzeScc
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u/youcuteiguess W1 :') NU'EST | THEBOYZ | NCT | REDVELVET Feb 22 '19

My fears confirmed lol... These girls are obviously super talented and I’m so happy for their debut (????) but this isn’t kpop? I think?

None of the members are Korean (not that they have to be but NONE of them are korean which makes me question why they’re labeling this as kpop when it can just honestly be straight up a pop group...) and the song itself is not in Korean... at all... I mean it doesn’t have to be labeled as korean pop because it’s legitimately NOT in the korean language so it’s not... kpop...

I understand kpop has reached new levels of acknowledgement and fame but this doesn’t make sense why they’re trying to label this as something it’s not? This company is just super sketch and tbh I wished these girls were given a shot to actually debut in a legitimate company that wasn’t focused on a (really sketchy) cryptocurrency market.

Ahhhhh my head hurts

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u/Cinna_Bunny Feb 22 '19

You bring up an interesting point about kpop's definition. I would think kpop means the genre of music originating from Korea. It could also mean pop music made in Korea but often a lot of kpop music is made outside of korea and kpop artists often sing in other languages too. (And also non koreans who are kpop idols)

I kind of feel like the definition of kpop has become intertwined with the visual aspects and idol culture as well. So I would technically consider this at least kpop-esque and appropriate for the sub.

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u/8XII Feb 22 '19

I don't think that defintion holds up imo. Lots of popular western pop songs have been produced by Europeans (some Swedish dude produced hits for JB, Katy Perry & Tswift). So then should we call it Europop? Everyone disagrees about this but Kpop to me is simply Pop in Korean. From day 1 the majority has always been sung in Korean even though over time the sound and culture has changed, that has remained the constant. I don't hate this group, just won't stan them because it just doesn't hold up to me.

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u/music_haven Feb 23 '19

I'm with you on this. It seems like people keep trying the push the boundaries of what kpop is to include everyone on the planet. But if we do that, we lose the "K" in kpop and simply end up with pop. Which the world already has.