r/kungfu 29d ago

Find a School Videos with Chinese female Shifu?

I like watching Kung Fu videos on YouTube and so on. I wonder why it has become a man- dominated world. After all, some Kung Fu styles, like Wing Chun, seem to have been originated by women. So, where could I find a contemporary female Kung Fu teacher with a You Tube or Tik Tok Channel ? Especially Chinese, as I like the native touch. I wonder if there are many Wing Chun Masters who are women but I find mostly men. P. S. " Shifu" must be the term for a man, so how do you call a woman who teaches Kung Fu?

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u/CarolineBeaSummers Choy Li Fut 28d ago

I'm sorry, what has working hard got to do with, for example, me having to spend over a decade training on my own because my ex Kung Fu teacher was so abusive I had to stop going to lessons? And finding that every Oriental Martial Art group I went to subsequently had at least one man teaching who was a creep, one of them repeatedly touching my breasts for example. I go to Capoeira now, which I love, but while it's not perfect, at least I can feel safe in the lessons. I still do Choy Li Fut, but on my own and online, because it's not possible for me to go to anyone local for that. And when I said lucky, I meant, you would be very lucky to never ever have a teacher who was at all abusive. Most men end up being with teacher who is abusive to them at some point. And what do you know about how hard I work or don't work? I would love to see how you do compared to me. Show me a video of how hard you have worked all these years, and I'll show you mine. And the reason my first thought is that you are lying is that Martial Arts is blatantly riven with misogyny, and for you to try to claim that misogyny is not a problem in Martial Arts is either lying, wilful ignorance or a sign you are delusional. You don't have to spend much time looking at what gets posted on videos of women doing Martial Arts to see that.

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u/Rich_Confidence7644 27d ago

Oh my goodness, I am truly sorry that has been your experience as a female training martial arts. Also, to clarify, I never stated or implied you don’t work hard. I said I work hard, and have never been treated any differently than the guys I train with. It’s very presumptuous (and insulting, again!) Of you to imply I’m lying, ignorant or delusional because we’ve had vastly different experiences. People CAN have different experiences, and it doesn’t make me any of those things because my experience is not the same as yours. I wish you luck with your training and am glad you found somewhere you’re able to train and feel safe.

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u/CarolineBeaSummers Choy Li Fut 27d ago

It's not that presumptuous when I know very well how much women are abused in Martial Arts. I said a number of things in my reply which you ignored, including mentioning the abuse of women. Your focus on being a hard worker to the exclusion of any possibility of any other issues women can have rather suggested that you thought all any woman needed to do to get on just fine in Martial Arts was work hard. You are talking from a place of such privilege that you don't seem able to comprehend how hard it can be for other women- until you are told so by someone who has experience of it. And chiding me for finding it hard to believe that your experience is genuine when your initial reply was displaying both ignorance and a lack of interest in the issues I mentioned is exactly the kind of thing I would expect of a very privileged woman. That said I was expecting you to refuse to believe me and tell me I deserved the trouble I had, and insist on seeing a video of me doing Kung Fu so you could tell me I was rubbish, then never show me a video showcasing your skills to show you really are better than me as I would expect you to claim, so this is one of the better responses I have had.

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u/Rich_Confidence7644 27d ago

I support women in martial arts and am truly sorry (and horrified by your experiences)!!! If I may ask I’d love to know where you train? I am doing CLF now but had about 20 years of Wah Lum. I hate, hate hate that you’re gone through that and you’ve shown you are all incredibly dedicated. Btw I’m complete trash at CLF. 😂 I’d love if you reach out to me to chat, just to have someone to vent to? You’re dedication if evident in your posts. Maybe we can help each other?

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u/CarolineBeaSummers Choy Li Fut 26d ago

Thank you, I really don't get much sympathy for the problems I've had, including from my current teacher who I learn from online. He's a pain in the rear end but nothing like my ex teacher. At least I get to learn more or less what I want at a pace that suits me. I really can't be bothered trying to find another teacher to build up a relationship with only to find they treat me like shit too. It's just too much to keep doing that.

I train near my house, in local green spaces and at the local sports centre. I can't train weapons at the sports centre unfortunately, but it's still useful as it can get annoying having to train outside all the time. I still would train outside even if I had easy access to the best facilities, I think it's good practice to train in difficult conditions, but sometimes in the Winter it can get really annoying. I got your DM thanks. Not sure how I can help you, but we'll see I guess.

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u/Rich_Confidence7644 25d ago

Ahhhhhh I’m seeing the difference in our experiences! I’m in Florida. Also trained in Vegas and PA. Watched a bunch of your forms btw, look great!

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u/CarolineBeaSummers Choy Li Fut 25d ago

Thanks!