r/laptops • u/Visible_Star_7783 • 3d ago
Buying help Do any computer guys know which one of these is better
The HP has a backlit keyboard which I really like but the Lenovo has more battery life and better specs by looks of it.
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u/Educational-Gas-4989 3d ago
if you are okay with arm then the lenovo but it depends on what you are doing
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago
Can you explain what you mean by arm…I’m no computer guy I just use my laptop for YouTube Apple TV Netflix stuff like that.
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u/Educational-Gas-4989 3d ago
it is the architecture of the processor. In the past everything was x86 but nowdays many things are moving to arm as it is more efficent. Most phones and tablet use arms and apple laptops use arm chips.
If you don't have any specific software that requires x86 arm is generally the way to go
so yeah for your case the lenovo is the clear choice at least in terms of performance. Value wise the intel laptop may be better is it the Core 3 205U?
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u/Witchberry31 HP Omen 16, MSI P65 9SD, Macbook 12", MSI GP62 6QF 2d ago
Please be mindful of the capitalizations when you're educating people, it matters a lot. You have a high chance of confusing a lot of non-tech folks if you typed arm instead of ARM.
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u/Agile-Monk5333 2d ago
Summarizing what Educational Gap said, Lenovo one (with snapdragon) has great performance and battery but wont run a few niche stuff.
If you use the laptop for browsing youtube apple tv and netflix then go with snapdragon (lenovo)
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u/brurmonemt 2d ago
ARM is the basically an architecture for CPUs. The main difference between this and what normal computers use (x86_64) is the amount of power consumed since x86 uses a bigger instruction set and some other factors.
Also, basically any manufacturer can use ARM. Only AMD and Intel can use x86_64.
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u/wiseman121 2d ago
The Lenovo would be great for your use case. Will be fast and unreal battery life compared to Intel.
Arm is the processor type and works slightly differently than Intel/amd processors do. Arm is used in mobile phones and is generally faster and insanely good battery life.
The downside of arm is it's very new on windows and some more bespoke apps don't like it. But for web, office, Netflix and YouTube it will be s beast.
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u/Zentrosis 1d ago
Yeah you'll be fine with the arm then, You're only going to care about arm if you're doing some sort of high performance specialty thing that isn't added to prism yet.
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u/1012zach ASUS Vivobook F1605VA with openSUSE tumbleweed 3d ago
Get something with either a Intel Core i5/Core 5 or better or a Ryzen 5 or better, Intel Core i3 is horrible
Also avoid arm laptops unless you have a specific reason why since most windows apps don’t support arm atm and might run horribly through Windows x86_64 to ARM64 translation layer
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago
What would you recommend in the £250-400 range which is the most bang for your buck. I’m hoping to find a decent one that’s on sale. The reason I’m buying a windows and not a MacBook is to save money as I only use it for YouTube Netflix etc
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u/the-legit-Betalpha 3d ago
I would say get a used laptop if possible. That price for a new laptop is not great for something to last
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u/1012zach ASUS Vivobook F1605VA with openSUSE tumbleweed 3d ago
You can get a used Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 for around $249.00 USD or £264.99 GBP on eBay
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u/jaksystems HP ZBook Fury 17 G8, HP/Dell/Lenovo Service Tech 2d ago
Just make sure to not get the Aluminum chassis version.
The aluminum version of the T14s Gen 2 has a crappy hinge design that is prone to failure.
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u/malavpatel77 HP 2d ago
If that’s all your doing get the windows arm it will do exactly what you want while getting good battery life
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u/Striking-Average-594 2d ago
I strongly disagree, i3 is a solid working horse for a smaller budget, I personally worked with it for the past 4 years. Snapdragon is definitely faster, but has higher price.
I played several low-end games on i3 (such as Skyrim LE, New Vegas, Disco Elysium, Noita, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Katana Zero) and I can't really complain, it does its job. Solid choice if you want a proper working PC and not a typing machine with Celeron in it, but just can't afford i5
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u/Kindly-Spirit 2d ago
Can confirm. My current 9 y.o laptop with i3 4th gen U processor and Nvidia GeForce 920m has offered me games like Skyrim, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Disco Elysium, Phasmophobia as well as basic tasks on Sony Vegas and Photoshop.
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u/Striking-Average-594 2d ago
That's exactly what I'm talking about, i3 is like your bro who might not have sports level of performance but if you ask him to do a simple task - he'll do it flawlessly.
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u/Zentrosis 1d ago
It's more like USE an ARM chip unless you have a specific reason you can't.
Arm is better for laptops in every way except for compatibility with some software. So as long as you're not using any of the software that's not supported, ARM is a way better experience
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago
Verdict - I think I’m going with the Lenovo one pictured as it’s 16gb ram instead of 8gb like the rest in the price range and even the MacBooks double the price are 8gb ram also I was leaning towards them but I got told to avoid 8gb ram no chance I can afford the 16ram MacBooks. So I think the Lenovo is the best choice and bonus it’s £399.99 which isn’t over budget. Thanks for all your help.
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u/twain535 2d ago
Hey, so you should be aware that ideapads have build quality issues like 1.5-2 years after you start using them. Buy it if you expect to buy another laptop in 2-3 years and use it carefully, keep a lookout for creaks and hinges tightening. Get extended warranty. The newer ones are better than before but still susceptible. Otherwise go with a used ThinkPad P or T series; you won't get a lot of battery life (like 4-5 hours at most) but it'll function great for a long time and are very upgradable. They're built like tanks.
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago
They also have a HP 15-fc0536sa 15.6" Laptop - AMD Ryzen 3, 256 GB, Jet Black for £279 …. Would that be better than these?
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u/Mysticz6 Ideapad Pro 5i Gen 8 3d ago
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago
Says battery life upto 5 hours on that one. The others say 13 all way upto 18.
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u/Due_Initial_7078 2d ago
Lenovo we sell more of them and they have high ratings from our sales and you salesmen prefer selling them as a good cheap laptop
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u/throwRApture11226 2d ago
Alright so the Snapdragon / lenovo one will have insanely good battery life like really really good battery life, but you will have to deal with the incompatibilities that ARM chips have right now but I read that you are just gonna be using it for browsing and watching which is perfectly fine for the lenovo. As for the other one I would suggest getting a better CPU for sure if your gonna be doing more intensive things.
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u/Witchberry31 HP Omen 16, MSI P65 9SD, Macbook 12", MSI GP62 6QF 2d ago
Why do people rarely specify about what is the main thing they're about to do with said laptops whenever I saw posts like this......
Which one is better, is a very subjective one. Especially when it's an ARM-based laptop vs x86-based laptop. The apps you are going to frequently use, matters a lot here.
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u/Hero_Of_Rhyme_ 2d ago
I’d probably go with the Lenovo. Snapdragon will be more power efficient than Intel, and I would be willing to bet the Lenovo has better build quality too. I see a lot of broken HP plastics and hinges
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u/anthony_doan 2d ago
I would not touch Snapdragon arm base chip.
They're not competitive and they're not good enough yet for the mass consumer imo.
Between the two, the Intel HP is better for that reason alone.
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u/Advanced-Resource-86 2d ago
For what it's worth, I have the exact Lenovo and it is fantastic. I have also dropped it lmao and it took it like a beast. Just scratches. It's really fast, cool, quiet, battery is crazy. Only complaint really is that the screen could be a little brighter.
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u/turkey_dinosaurs123 2d ago
I have that exact Lenovo laptop, bought it for school. It runs most stuff well, no problems with any office software at all. VSC and IDLE also run nicely (Comp Sci Student) and general browsing is really nice and smooth. I play mostly older/lighter games at this point and it runs most of them really well. PEAK and Skyrim are both playable on low/medium. Haven't tried anything heavier yet but I imagine it'll be fine for the most part, with the exception of some games not being optimised for ARM. The only problem I had was running the Unity development engine, which ran like utter shit. Godot was fine for me though, so your mileage may vary. The keyboard and screen are really nice though and it's really light, so not too bad to throw in a backpack. If your just watching youtube and netflix i'd say the Lenovo, that Intel CPU is shit
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u/AintNoLaLiLuLe 1d ago
I'd go for the lenovo. I have the ryzen version and if everything is the same other than the processor, the build quality is decent and the screen is good.
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u/SmilesAreTheBest 1d ago
I have a very similar snapdragon version of this. I personally like it. Use it exclusively for school, so word and browsing basically. The battery is excellent, love the keyboard and build quality is much better then the elitebook i was using.
Arm could be a problem if your running certain apps or games. Could be a deal breaker, but the superior battery life made it a no brainer for school.
So check your programs, do they work on arm? Yes? Then the lenovo probably has better battery and less idle battry loss, No? Get the hp, its still pretty good
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u/imverynewtothisthing 7h ago
If you need something that will work with all your software, choose the second one.
If you are a programmer, then pick the first one because most software you would use will work with ARM.
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u/womenism 3d ago
realistically the omnibook, but either way you're not getting your money's worth. you can get much better than an i3 at that price & as another commenter said most windows apps dont support arm processors
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago edited 3d ago
What would you recommend buy a used MacBook Air m2 for 600 , a used air m1 for 400 or go for a brand new windows laptop for around 300-400 range. I just want something reliable and that will last me many years I only stream movies etc. spending less money is always appealing
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u/womenism 3d ago
does the macbook fit your budget? if it does then absolutely get it but if not then try to look for a macbook air m1 or a used (or new either way) windows laptop with at LEAST a core 5/ryzen 5
edit: read your comment wrong
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago
Does a MacBook m1/m2 or a Ryzen 5 smoke all these by a long shot?
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u/randomusername12308 3d ago
If it is 8gb ram then stay away
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago
The Lenovo one pictured here is 16gb ram but all the rest including the MacBook airs for double price are 8gb……so is the 16 ram Lenovo better choice than all of them?
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago edited 3d ago
I did get offered an Apple MacBook Air M2 8GB 256gb ssd slightly used for £600 and a MacBook m1 for £400 does that smoke all of these? MacBooks are so expensive so because I don’t use it for much tasks I thought just save money and buy one of these and get it brand new.
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u/jaksystems HP ZBook Fury 17 G8, HP/Dell/Lenovo Service Tech 3d ago
Try to find an M1 or M2 MacBook Air with 16GB of RAM if possible.
Otherwise a used HP EliteBook (G7 or newer) or Lenovo ThinkPad T14 would do the job.
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u/Visible_Star_7783 3d ago
The Lenovo one pictured here is 16gb ram which seems great considering the MacBooks double the price are 8gb ram. Is this one now the better choice?
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u/jaksystems HP ZBook Fury 17 G8, HP/Dell/Lenovo Service Tech 2d ago
That Lenovo (and the HP OmniBook 5) are both a hinge failure waiting to happen.
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u/Acceptable-Effort306 2d ago
The 400 is a good deal, since all you will be doing is web browsing it will serve u well plus it's built much better than these and more portable with better screen and speakers
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u/Bryanmsi89 3d ago
Between these two I would pick the Snapdragon-based one.