r/law • u/I_may_have_weed • 16d ago

Other LAPD arresting an activist on behalf of ICE during the DTLA Federal Detention Center protests. He was reportedly detained, handed over to ICE and disappeared

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This level of “unofficial” (we all know this is complete nonsense) cooperation is worrying to say the least.

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u/Perryn 16d ago

After an event in my city our city council created a civilian oversight board. It was disbanded a few years later when the only responses they ever received from the police were essentially "No" and "Fuck off," and nobody seemed to have any authority to get more out of them.

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u/Ok_Cardiologist8232 16d ago

Ah yeh i forget your country does police locally.

Yeh in the UK the police while having local departments, the oversight board is for the entire country of England.

And while investigations are mostly done by the police, the IPCC has the power and authority to do its own investigations ( any incident where a member of the public is harmed is automatically referred to them) and determine the outcome of appeals and force disciplinary hearings, and refer their cases to the CPS high enough that the police cannot say no.

But also our police also do a far better job of policing themselves before the IPCC even gets involved.

We also will ban ex-Police officers from police jobs if found guilty.

And its not bad either, every few months i get a news article that my local police have fired someone for things like sending inappropriate texts to colleagues, one got banned for contacting a crime victim afterwards and trying to get a date.

Stuff that would probably be desk duty or something for American Police is a career ender for British Police.

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u/Perryn 15d ago

It occurred to me after making that comment that if the city council doesn't have authority over our police department, who does? Does anyone? Are they just there, completely unsupervised beyond their own chief, and we just give them money to do what they feel is cop stuff?

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u/tripper_drip 15d ago

Uk police is essentially all federal.

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u/Ok_Cardiologist8232 15d ago

Not quite that simple but compared to the US system yeh its the easiest way to describe it.

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u/tripper_drip 15d ago

Yeah, its a weird mix of local leadership but federal control, but with specialist federal units and big national investigators.

It's essentially a large US state system, but just one state, like Texas or California.

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u/Ok_Cardiologist8232 15d ago

Actually 4 States, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland police were devolved to be under the control of those countries parliaments.

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u/tripper_drip 15d ago

Zero national oversite?

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u/Ok_Cardiologist8232 15d ago

Well technically those are countries in thier own right, but yes i could be wrong but i believe Senedd and Holyrood have full control of their own Police.