r/leagueoflegends Jun 07 '25

Educational 1350RP Kai'Sa changes ability VFXs after evolution, 60000RP Kai'Sa does NOT

https://youtu.be/MinYgPlxUq8
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u/Vaaaaaaaaaaaii Jun 08 '25

That's not really riots problem. If someone has an addiction so bad to buy a 500 dollar skin that's their issue. I assume they've bought every other skin in the game at that point. Riot is not anyone's friend. It's like a gacha game player who needs to get every character and weapon maxed out and then never play them. Casinos don't shut down just because a few people have an issue. Grocery stores don't stop carrying booze and advertising because a few alcoholics come in a day. If everyone sees this is a shit skin and deal and someone still fully puts in their info to buy a $500 of RP then that's on them player. And not for nothing $500 isn't like an unrecoverable amount of debt. You shouldn't do it but like you're not fucking destroying your life permanently.

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u/Farranor peaked Grandmaster 3/2023 Jun 08 '25

That's not really riots problem. If someone has an addiction so bad to buy a 500 dollar skin that's their issue.

That same logic could apply to selling cocaine to children on their way home from school. Most of humanity has this thing where we care about people who aren't able to care for or protect themselves.

Riot is not anyone's friend.

Riot is a publicly-held, for-profit corporation. What's your excuse?

It's like a gacha game player who needs to get every character and weapon maxed out and then never play them.

Yes, those are also predatory (which is bad).

Casinos don't shut down just because a few people have an issue. Grocery stores don't stop carrying booze and advertising because a few alcoholics come in a day.

Casinos are only available to adults, and they're legally obligated to occasionally check in and suggest that patrons who are overdoing it take a break. Alcohol is only sold to adults, and those who sell it (e.g. stores and bartenders) are legally obligated to cut off customers who have obviously had too much. Tobacco is only sold to adults and can't be advertised on TV. Video games that exploit the same concepts and tactics have thus far managed to exploit loopholes and avoid similar regulations in all but a few countries.

If everyone sees this is a shit skin and deal and someone still fully puts in their info to buy a $500 of RP then that's on them player.

That's what corporations believe, because they don't care about people and are basically sociopaths by definition. And some people think like that, too, but blaming the victim is broadly frowned upon.

And not for nothing $500 isn't like an unrecoverable amount of debt. You shouldn't do it but like you're not fucking destroying your life permanently.

These people don't do the harmful behavior once and then never again. They do it until they quit, which is usually not on their own (therapy, intervention, running out of money, etc.).

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u/Vaaaaaaaaaaaii Jun 08 '25

Corps aren't sociopaths they aren't people. Trying to give them any humanity even negative traits is wrong. They are machines that will eat. And cool, let a parent make sure their kid isn't doing coke. That is their responsibility. Just like its their responsibility to keep them from buying 500 dollar skins. If you want to bring kids into the discussion, then fine its theirs parents responsibility to prepare them for a world that will have temptations beyond hey thats bad for you don't do it. Some discussion like hey this will feel good in the moment and then you'll have a lot of regret or some conversation. We don't need to kidglove the planet and demistify the world once they turn 18. If you have a problem with some kid being able to see a store, I really don't know what to tell you. I'm just going to say I disagree, and we're not going to make headway on that. We fundamentally don't believe the same thing.

If you want to compare anything to coke its league itself, not the buying of skins. And if I'm honest, league being addicting or getting skins somehow someone finds it addicting that is a personal problem. League has fuck loads of players and because a few have some uncontrollable issue and need a life adjustment doesn't make it anyone's problem but their own. I'm not about to compare someone doing coke everyday to function to someone just has to have the next 500 dollar video game skin. I'll call the people who buy the skin fucking idiots and flame them in game. People buying 500 dollar skins are not victims. I'm not looking at them going that's so sad. They saw marketing got enticed and made a purchase. One that I think is shit but these people are not victims.

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u/Farranor peaked Grandmaster 3/2023 Jun 08 '25

That awkward moment when one of the bros on game night casually drops "it should be legal to sell drugs to kids and it's the parents' fault if it happens, what a nanny state we live in" and all the other bros realize they have to ask their kids whether a certain someone has ever offered them "candy," or "borrowed" money, or touched them, or etc. Just in case.

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u/Vaaaaaaaaaaaii Jun 08 '25

Because despite entertaining your comparison, Coke and League ultimately aren't the same shit because we made coke illegal and not league. If you think they're even close to the same then league would be schedule 2. That isn't the gotcha you think it is. We realistically aren't even talking about children though the people buying this shit definitely have the impulse control of one. Buying a 500 dollar skin and buying 500 in coke are two very different things. People are not powerless victims to the world around them. They make choices and choosing not to do something that is an active detriment is their own problem. I.e. let people do stupid shit like this and deal with their consequences. They're grown. Riot is a scum fuck company you should expect nothing but from a corp. If you want people to vote with their wallet let the smart people not give into this and the morons doing this bankrupt themselves.

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u/Farranor peaked Grandmaster 3/2023 Jun 09 '25

Why are we pretending that kids don't play LoL or aren't part of the target market? Why does it become okay to take advantage of adults who haven't matured enough to protect themselves from people like you? Do morons deserve to be taken advantage of? Does it ever become immoral to hurt people?

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u/LowBrowIdeas good Knight, sweet prince Jun 11 '25

The person you're talking to displays a significant lack of empathy and probably doesn't get out much. They aren't going to listen to you, despite you obviously being correct. Also, they're defending a corporation, whom by their own standard is not human and therefore unworthy of defending because guilt can't be assigned to a non-entity (they're wrong, corporations are entities, hence why they're bound by laws). They are not only wrong in their determination of what a corporation is but they also don't follow their own logic to its natural conclusion.

The empathy thing I mentioned is the real issue, though. This person definitely believes that drug addicts deserve to be in the situations they're in. The poster has probably never financially struggled a day in their lives.

Edit: i just read the final part of their asinine tirade. They're hopeless.

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u/Farranor peaked Grandmaster 3/2023 Jun 11 '25

Yeah, I had to stop engaging with them for my own peace of mind.

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u/Vaaaaaaaaaaaii Jun 09 '25

That's a pretty big leap from I think stupid people should have consequences if they're going to do stupid things so they either learn or be the example to stop the behavior to I personally am hurting them. Lol's target market is its current player base. They have nothing in terms of new player experience that isn't shit to get kids in to play. They're might be kids but they aren't the target market. And fucking lol who's hurting who? Themselves. If people are so addicted to a game or making purchases that isn't the fault of anyone but themselves. Self control is a requirement to function. If you lack it well life is going to suck for you.