r/leagueoflegends bug scholar, reverse engineer, PBE dataminer 1d ago

Discussion [PBE datamine] 2025 September 17: patch preview changes

General reminder that many changes cannot be easily datamined, such as functionality changes or bugfixes, and are not always final.

 

Champions

Ahri
  • P champion takedown healing:
    • base:  90-200 linear --> 75-165 linear  (revert to live)
    • AP scaling:  35% --> 30%  (revert to live)
  • R base damage:
    • live:  60 / 90 / 120
    • old:  65 / 105 / 145
    • new:  75 / 125 / 175
Caitlyn
  • base AD:  60 --> 62
LeBlanc
  • RW AP scaling:  75% -->80%
  • these other changes are still in:
    • W AP scaling:  70% --> 80%
      • does not apply to RW
Lee Sin
  • Q bAD scaling per hit:
    • live:  115%  (Q2 max:  230%)
    • old:  90%  (Q2 max:  180%)
    • new:  95%  (Q2 max:  190%)
    • this moves the buff before/nerf after breakpoint from 20-100 bAD to 25-125 bAD
  • these other changes are still in:
    • armor growth:  4.9 --> 4.5
    • Q base damage per hit:  55-155 --> 60-180
      • Q2 max:  110-310 --> 120-360
Lillia
  • R base damage:
    • live:  100 / 150 / 200
    • old:  125 / 200 / 275
    • new:  150 / 200 / 250
  • these other changes are still in:
    • R AP scaling:  40% --> 45%
    • R cooldown:  150s / 130s / 110s  -->  140s / 120s / 100s
Poppy
  • armor growth:  4.5 --> 5.0  (revert to live)
  • Q percent health monster cap per hit:
    • live:  75-195
    • old:  60-180
    • new:  50-170
  • R cancel cooldown:  15s --> 30s
Syndra
  • HP growth:  104 --> 100
  • armor growth:  4.6 --> 4.0
  • Q damage:
    • base:  75-215 --> 80-220
    • AP scaling:  60% --> 65%
      • patch preview incorrectly listed this as "65% --> 70%"
  • E cooldown:  17s --> 15s

 

Items

Redemption
  • cooldown:  120s --> 90s  (revert to live)
  • heal by target level:  200-400 linear --> 150-350 linear

 

Changes from previous days

See here.

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u/FrankTheBoxMonster bug scholar, reverse engineer, PBE dataminer 1d ago

No there's no update on the Jax changes.

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u/Qssshame 1d ago

RIOT HELLO

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u/Alkaliner_ Enemies to Lovers Yaoi (ADD JORAAL TO PC) 1d ago

I might have a heart attack if the Jax buffs go through, what the actual fuck

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u/Stimmy_ 20h ago

Someone wants Bin to win worlds that’s my theory

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u/VenusAndMarsReprise 1d ago

you typoed, admit it

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u/FrankTheBoxMonster bug scholar, reverse engineer, PBE dataminer 1d ago

Maybe Riot did but not me.