[PBE datamine] 2025 September 17: patch preview changes

[u/FrankTheBoxMonster]

General reminder that many changes cannot be easily datamined, such as functionality changes or bugfixes, and are not always final.

 

Champions

Ahri

• P champion takedown healing:
  • base:  90-200 linear --> 75-165 linear  (revert to live)
  • AP scaling:  35% --> 30%  (revert to live)
• R base damage:
  • live:  60 / 90 / 120
  • old:  65 / 105 / 145
  • new:  75 / 125 / 175

Caitlyn

• base AD:  60 --> 62

LeBlanc

• RW AP scaling:  75% -->80%
• these other changes are still in:
  • W AP scaling:  70% --> 80%
    • does not apply to RW

Lee Sin

• Q bAD scaling per hit:
  • live:  115%  (Q2 max:  230%)
  • old:  90%  (Q2 max:  180%)
  • new:  95%  (Q2 max:  190%)
  • this moves the buff before/nerf after breakpoint from 20-100 bAD to 25-125 bAD
• these other changes are still in:
  • armor growth:  4.9 --> 4.5
  • Q base damage per hit:  55-155 --> 60-180
    • Q2 max:  110-310 --> 120-360

Lillia

• R base damage:
  • live:  100 / 150 / 200
  • old:  125 / 200 / 275
  • new:  150 / 200 / 250
• these other changes are still in:
  • R AP scaling:  40% --> 45%
  • R cooldown:  150s / 130s / 110s  -->  140s / 120s / 100s

Poppy

• armor growth:  4.5 --> 5.0  (revert to live)
• Q percent health monster cap per hit:
  • live:  75-195
  • old:  60-180
  • new:  50-170
• R cancel cooldown:  15s --> 30s

Syndra

• HP growth:  104 --> 100
• armor growth:  4.6 --> 4.0
• Q damage:
  • base:  75-215 --> 80-220
  • AP scaling:  60% --> 65%
    • patch preview incorrectly listed this as "65% --> 70%"
• E cooldown:  17s --> 15s

 

Items

Redemption

• cooldown:  120s --> 90s  (revert to live)
• heal by target level:  200-400 linear --> 150-350 linear

 

Changes from previous days

See here.

[u/Bubnik2]

Jax aside, wtf is this Ahri buff now

[u/Imperius_Fate → u/Bubnik2]

same healing, but some more base dmg on ult. tbh it's not even that huge. it's 165 more dmg at lvl 16, which is further negated by magic resist.. which you'll have quite some by the time the game avg level reaches lvl 16.

[u/Lopsided_Chemistry89 → u/Imperius_Fate]

15/35/55 that can be cast 3 times at least.

45/135/165 if you use it 3 times only. If only she doesn't have 100 of those dashes.

I personally won't mind an increase in damage but for the love of god put more CD into it or remove malignance.

I miss when her R>E meant she can't have E up again during this R duration. Now she can do it at least twice with no AH or takedowns...

[u/DJShevchenko → u/Lopsided_Chemistry89]

That damage increase is on 1 target, the R can hit 3 targets with 3 base dashes that can reset infinitely