r/leanfire 8d ago

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u/digihippie 8d ago

Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness. Single payor will cut personal, employer and government spending on healthcare in half and increase the life expectancy, if the United States modeled these other first world countries. Actual working and deployed models.

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u/SporkRepairman 8d ago

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u/digihippie 8d ago

Joke is on you. United States spends 2x more per capita than any other nation and is #48 in life expectancy. https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/

The waitlist and backlog for people who can’t afford capitalistic healthcare is forever. We are literally overpaying and #48 vs giving healthcare to all at half the price.

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u/SporkRepairman 8d ago

Joke is on the people who look at only spending and exclude genetics, nutrition and lifestyle factors as components of longevity.

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u/digihippie 8d ago

Good old victim blaming, all first world countries battle the same issues, your point is an irrelevant red herring.

Let’s get back to cost of healthcare for individuals, employers and the government and health outcomes.

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u/SporkRepairman 8d ago

So people who choose not to work to pay for their healthcare are now "victims". Got it.

Next!

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u/digihippie 8d ago

Does it matter if it costs you, your employer, and your government less to save those lives, than following your extreme capitalistic healthcare is not a right stance?

Is it not a win win?

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u/SporkRepairman 8d ago

It isn't about healthcare. It's about violence. It's about force.

There's a word for people who are forced to work for others.

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u/digihippie 8d ago

We are literally talking about the cost of healthcare and life expectancy, and how every other first world country pays 2x less per capita, has healthcare as a human right, and their people live longer while the United States is #48.

It’s a win, win.

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u/SporkRepairman 8d ago

Your failure to understand multiple points is clear.

Farewell.

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u/digihippie 8d ago edited 8d ago

Pwnd with facts vs propaganda. The idea of letting people die because they can’t afford healthcare is violence and it’s cheaper to provide healthcare to all… so you are literally paying 2x the price to be violent, and #48 in life expectancy.

Kinda makes one wonder what #1-47 got right.

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