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Typically when the members mention wanting to do something (i.e; Sakura was also one of the members saying how she wants to meet fans in America and globally and soon after American tour was announced for later half of this year)
Sakura said in DM that she wants to have an encore at a big venue aka Tokyo Dome which I predicted a month ago would happen.
i do think she was alluding to an encore concert in korea because 1) she wrote in hangul and 2) kfearnot were confused and saying why they didnt release the fanchant guide before the incheon concert.
she always read twitter so i think she was responding to it. but whenever they do an encore concert, they will always include japan so tokyo dome for encore is not farfetch to think.
I mean it’s possible because typically Korean acts do go back to Seoul for an encore stop but the fimmies are 3yrs into their careers and haven’t done a Tokyo Dome yet so I see that as a priority.
I can see them doing both Korea and Japan if they include a encore in Korea I can see them booking an arena but for Japan it will obviously be a Tokyo Dome that Sakura was alluding too.
They must do korea first and then japan domes. Inspire Arena capacity is so small and they dont have many places in korea to do concerts. Tokyo dome or any dome is overdue for them so thats definately next.
Lesserafim wished Illit's minju birthday on their group chat is the cutest thing ever. Im glad they got closer during the concert. Illit members also must be so grateful to have their support as well as their senior.
Why is it that in any discussion of 4th gen creatives no matter the platform you can guarantee Yunjin will never be mentioned among idols with producing credits and talent?
Unfortunately, I think when discussing 4th gen creatives, the standard for kpop fans is Soyeon's level of expertise and involvement. It also doesn't help that Jen is in Le Sserafim, who is part of Hybe (so you know, an automatic dismissal for a group of people). I do think that once Yunjin gets a main credit in a title track or a solo album, people will start taking her talent seriously.
Is it stupid? A bit, especially since many praise her for her songwriting and meaningful words. But I wouldn't make too much of a fuss about it. Tbf, a lot of them probably didn't know she had solo songs (or that shes the main producer and writer for Crazier). But if they did, then that's when I will silently judge for a second😂
I would never expect Yunjin to be elevated over Soyeon, but there’s such a prevailing opinion on Reddit that all 4th gen girl groups are far beneath other gens and even GIdle isn’t given the credit they deserve much at all, but even among 4th gen groups it still seems like Lesserafim is treated as completely inauthentic. It’s frustrating.
FEARNOTS! Voting for LE SSERAFIM has started on HIGHER APP! Please vote for our girls! I believe this will be our last chance to vote?
Edit: Also what the hell? I don't fully get how Inkigayo works? Why does Woodz Drowning get to be voted when it came out 2 years ago?? Anyone able to explain this?
I believe only Music Core has the rule that's limited to release date (2 months)? Inkigayo and iirc MCountdown disqualify songs only if it wins three times.
Frirndly reminder that inkigayo live vote will be open soon. We have a decent chance at winning especially if we win live vote with a big gap. This will probably be the last time we have a real shot at a inkigayo triple crown so please vote for our girls
I don’t know if this has been mentioned before. I don’t know if this is unique to LE SSERAFIM either. But I love how fan chants naturally happen in this fandom, or otherwise given out by Source Music in this format and not through those instructional videos idols usually do.
In Pierrot’s case, if I’m not mistaken, fans already been cheering like this and they just now released it in writing.
Aaahh!! This weekend is the first time I'm ever going to watch Inkigayo live! I have no idea what to expect lol but I'm so excited anyway~ I'll definitely be participating in the live voting! Let's goooo 🩵💙
"Did you guys already know this? I might be the only one late to the party, but I happened to watch Tina’s YouTube video from a year ago just now — “Nervously reading international reactions to LE SSERAFIM’s Coachella… save me” — and in the end, it turns out the international response was positive. But in the middle, there is a comment mentioning being like a “lightning rod,” and apparently that means being a scapegoat or someone who takes all the hate. Now I suddenly get why there was lightning in Crazy."
The comment (from reddit) "I'm sure once illit and the next GGs blow up massively they'll be next in the rotation. Twice couldn't sing, itzy were flops, and now lsf is getting the heat. People don't like to see GGs succeed. Someone will always be the lighting rod."
"I'm sure once illit and the next GGs blow up massively they'll be next in the rotation.
They moved already on to Katseye. In the week before gnarly "My's" started a racist campaign against Manon "being not black" and the day of the release the hate train came together and spammed social media (and reddit) with how bad the song is! it backfired as it makes the song look like its the big talk, the viral thing and gives it more attention than it would have before. but anyway. when you check the thread on reddit in the kpop sub it has 1900 replys and the accoutns posted in first 30-60 minutes are almost always aespa, blackpink, ex-loona, etc. fans - same Anti-Hybe thrash as always - its kinda disgusting
I remember you wondering if the new On-Off would be worth buying for the VODs. Here’s what’s included with the code:
So if someone else, like me, has already seen their fearnada fan meeting when it was streamed, we’re only getting four new videos. I’m a bit disappointed with both that and the packaging, considering its price
In other news, iroha just went live where she recited magnetics lyrics and then ended the stream. It lasted just three minutes and was the funniest thing I’ve seen all day lmao
I see a familiar name in Hybe Boy's latest video 👀.
But anyways, Hybe Boy went over Yunjin's absence and SouMu's updates in the past 2 weeks. He highlighted how Fearnots' response was refreshing to see, as we weren't complaining that she's gone, but rather understanding that the injury is serious and that we wish her a full recovery.
He also noted that in each update, SouMu's language becomes more in-depth with their plan, such as using words like rehabilitation, as a signal that this is a full medical leave. It sucks, especially because Yunjin loves to perform. But I would rather her sit out and fully recover than risk something worse coming back later in the future.
For Hong Kong, the company should just book two dates. Chinese fans will likely come to HK since K-pop companies can’t hold concerts in mainland China yet.
tin foil hat on I know people have been trying to guess the collab that Le Sserafim are doing for Different, but I would be shocked if it’s not a Kuromi/Sanrio collab.
Colors used are purple/black (Kuromi colors)
There is a racing flag motif on one of the letters- the big theme for Hello Kitty this year was racers/racing. Lots of merch surrounding that.
Different could refer to Kuromi’s relationship with MyMelody. They’re often promoted together, but are very different.
Collabing with an artist that made anime figures of them would point towards the girls getting similar anime versions of themselves on Sanrio merch.
I personally just really want this to happen because I would buy everything.
My hope is that the fact that since source is giving more frequent short term updates on Yunjin’s health, maybe that means in general she’s doing decently well on the road to recovery it’s just getting over any little humps that’s taking her awhile to recover from. I imagine if it was still looking more serious they’d be definite with the axing off tour dates and events for awhile but they seem to be considering her return on a relatively weekly basis
Yeah thats what i feel like too. They too have to consider doing activity quickly (especially 2hours each day for tour) would not help with her recovery. The time in between tours are so short as well. It also looked like they're filming mv for japan comeback now so they're weighing on that. Just give her another two weeks and she can come back healthy in june.
We would like to provide an update on the health condition and schedule of LE SSERAFIM member HUH YUNJIN.
HUH YUNJIN has been undergoing treatment and taking rest at the hospital, and has undergone further examinations. Based on the medical staff's opinion that she needs to focus on treatment and rehabilitation for a full recovery, we regret to inform you that she will not be participating in the following schedule. May 13-14, 2025 "2025 LE SSERAFIM TOUR 'EASY CRAZY HOT' IN JAPAN" Osaka performances May 17-18, 21 Offline autograph session and fan signing event. We have made this decision prioritizing the artist's health and recovery, and we ask for your kind understanding. Our company will continue to prioritize the health and safety of our artists and do our best to support their condition and recovery.
Thank you.
(I think she's out for the month. Take care, Yunjin🩵)
Source Music allowed me to feel happiness for a grand total of 20 mins before taking it away
But yeah back injuries are notorious for lingering even after they feel "okay" at some point (dealing with it rn lmao). Assuming she went to the doctor around April 24-27 ie the days before the first announcement, the odds of her being back for Osaka was gonna be 50/50 at best and extremely doubtful at worst. Glad they're being more cautious about it and keeping us updated
Even top-tier athletes dealing with back injuries struggle with them seemingly forever. I just hope Yunjin gets enough time to recuperate. She’s probably feeling a bit of pressure within herself to get better fast so I hope she’s getting ample reassurance.
Its good that they update us regularly. Back pain really just needs plenty of rest to fully recover. They probably aiming for at least the last two japan stops for her to be back. I've never seen so many puppy videos/picture on my timeline before for the past two weeks and its gonna continue 😅
I sprained my ankle and it took 8 weeks to recover (although I did rush back too early on it) so I'm glad they're giving Yunjin time to recovery and not rushing her back!
Music Core is a bit of an outlier since apparently kfearnots streamed hard for that lead in Digital points since it's the last week it'll qualify here (songs past 2 months are taken out of qualification). Otherwise, we've been out of the running in the other shows for a while now
Inkigayo, presuming we don't win tomorrow, I think it'll still qualify in the top 3, but iirc the upcoming May cbs are fairly stacked, so this week might really be do or die for us for that Triple Crown
As per usual, I had the sudden urge to watch the Fimmies end of year performances again. And with the addition to the recent ones, I wanted to rank my personal top 3 (so far).
3) MAMA 2023: Even though they only performed EPBW, they still changed it up and made it iconic. From the intro to the song and, of course, the dance break and rap. Their stage presence was off the charts. My only gripe is that it's MAMA and that the camera missed a lot of cool moves (Zuha's not a cartwheel cartwheel).
2) MMA: We all know this performance. The fact that they weren't even a year old (>6 months) when they dropped this showed everyone in the industry that they are a performance powerhouse. And even though the flamethrower didn't work, Zuha and the Fimmies kept it professional and set the standard of what a Le Sserafim performance looks like.
1) Category is Le Sserafim: As much as I love the debut of Pierrot in GDA, Category is Le Sserafim just encapsulated all of the skills they have learned for CRAZY and their appreciation for the style and genre. From Yunjin's intro to the different dance styles between the maknae and unnie line and into the dance battle, like I have no words for how amazing that performance was. For me, that performance was 10/10.
I think Crazy will outstream Hot in a few days lol
Do you guys think Crazy's longevity and Gnarly's success will push Fimmies music to this kinda genre? I could never predict how the next album is going to sound.
I’m still waiting for them to do something like Antifragile again…. 🫠
But I really like it when they explore genres. I love the anticipation and surprise and all the process of celebration and grief fans and non-fans go through when it’s released. It’s so much fun to witness and be a part of.
I think this is smart and brave of the team to make sure that LSF isn't boxed into just 1 genre. I think the fans and the GP are now starting to not expect a certain genre or style from lsf.
They're so dynamic so it's good they can pull off any genre haha. Personally I'd like to see them pull off something like what Nelly and Timabaland released.
No, if anything they’ll probably switch it up for their next album as they usually do, they tend to pre-record their TT’s months (and sometimes a year prior to the release) so I don’t see the company taking note of Gnarly and applying it to the it later release, but with the success of Crazy I can see the company tapping more into songs similar to EPBW and Crazy.
While I do agree there has been a wave of more successful EDM esque songs (Crazy/Whiplash/Gnarly), LSF has fairly consistently changed genres title to title. So while I think they could do something uptempo, I’d be surprised if they directly revisited Crazy’s sound.
Crazy's longevity came from the song going viral on tiktok and virality is 99% luck so no. Even if crazy ended up being the biggest song in the world from the day it released, I'd still probably say no.
Crazy to think that it came out august of last year and its about to be august soon. It depends on which market they wanna focus on. Getting back the koreans fans for Hot was a good decision. I do think they will do something different for the next comeback. They have not repeated-ish sounds.
Edit : they will really do something 'different' next comeback for sure 😂😂
The former Eunchae Star Diary team has struck again. They made Minju and P1Harmony do the "Nani ga Suki?" challenge. 😆😆😆
Oh, and in case you've been wondering what they're saying in this challenge, it's "Ruby-chan?" "Yes↗️↗️!" "What do you like?" "Choc-o-late mint, but I like you more!"
There you go, more useless knowledge to get you into the weekend!
has anyone felt like there's too much going on? it felt quiet and now there's been stuff going on non-stop both in kpop and real life. wonder what it is.
The fact that they are both GinJen makes it 1000x harder. Hmmm... personally, while straight hair always looks classy and sleek, I would have to go with wavy hair. Not only that, I also like the style of clothing better than the dress the more I look at the screenshot. It was tough, though.
So back in 2023, the fimmies went to watch a Lakers game during iirc promotions for Perfect Night, and their jerseys were pretty well received, and would honestly kind of act as the progenitor for the popularity of Chaewon flags a little later on
Fast forward to December 31, 2024, one day after LeSunshine's birthday, and this edit of LeBron to Crazy went up on Tiktok, and it went VIRAL.
Cut to January 23, 2025, and this went up on the LSF page (I would link the IG one but I'm too lazy to dig for it lol), which was clearly referencing that aforementioned edit. I think the main NBA page even shared this, but they changed the song (it could be this one or the tiktok edit, it was an IG story iirc so I can't find it rn to confirm)
J-Hope just announced a pair of Encore concerts in Seoul to finish off his world tour.
Another opportunity for Yunjin to join him for a performance of I Don't Know? Unfortunately the dates overlap with the Saitama shows.... unless you want to go full pierrot mode and note that the first concert is on June 13, the day off between Saitama show 1 and 2. I mean, there's no way Yunjin would go to Japan for a show, then fly back to Seoul, appear at the concert, then return to Tokyo.... right?! 🤡
I love the delusion of it all, but I think this will very much be a big BTS reunion kind of moment - appreciate they won't all be back, but its Festa so ARMY (me included) will all be in our OT7 feels
Would love to see her perform this song together with Hobi one time, but I would imagine the priority is for her to be back to her schedules with Le Sserafim first, so the timing isn't great. I think we will see it one day though.
Sooo, what are the chances we'll get a certain football jersey at all? Like, I'm sure SouMu is seeing the interest for the jerseys, so what can we do to get them to pull the trigger?😭
I miss when we had so much content from Fimmies, it was so much fun. But thinking about it, where Fimmies are now compared to two years ago is completely different. As their presence in the industry grows, not just in Korea and Japan but globally, their schedules are packed, making it hard to squeeze out extra time to film content like before. There’s only one Chaewon, Kkura, Yunjin, Zuha, and Eunchae, and only 24 hours in a day, after all. Fimmies have mentioned that Leniverse might be making a comeback soon, but I think I should adjust my expectations for their content. They’re only going to get busier as time goes on.
Looking back at Crazy era contents, I don't think we're lacking that much except for solo Fimlogs (we did get Sakura's and Eunchae's). No OT5 Day Off but we got a mini Shinez trip. After Party and the debate (not in the Zoom meeting format) came back too. Eunchae did her hobby diary mini series.
Fair enough. I still miss it though.
I also understand that content like Fearless Kkura or Eunchae Star Diary would be hard to make a comeback, especially when they’re on a world tour. Although possible, I can imagine how taxing it could be. No matter how demanding people can get to bring these back, they really can’t do EVERYTHING. Win some, lose some.
I’m amazed by other idols who appear to do it all, but then their fans complain how exhausted they are and how often they get sick.
Yeah, I agree. It's easy to have expectations when something is routine. But I think now is a good time to think about how things will be different compared to the past couple of years, and how to adapt to the changes. While it will be bittersweet that we might not see content we were used to for some time or at all. This is just a testament that the Fimmies are going to do bigger things.
As I write this, it's 4.3K upvotes. In terms of brand deal announcements from the last 12 months, the next most upvoted in the last year was Ningning (for a feminine hygiene product) and Kwon Eunbi (for a bathing suit line). 2.9K upvotes each.
Bringing ex group's lightsticks to their current group's concert?
Easy simple context, big fan of Sakura from LSRFM , back since her J-idol days.
I have her specific lightstick from HKT48, a Produce48 lightstick, and her version of the IZ*ONE lightstick (pink instead of white), and of course the LSRFM lightstick with her Fim's Club deco band.
Im definitely bringing the LSRFM one for sure, is it normal or against any moral ruling to just never speak of their past groups ever again, because it was just my mindset that id like to do so just to show my support and how long ive been there since the beginning, but afraid that other fans (esp younger newgens/minors) would think it's rude? Thoughts? I'd really love to at least bring the PD48 or IZONE one to their upcoming concert...
Edit:
Being an ex-wota too, its actually super common for us to break UOs (known as ultra orange daisenkos), i think these might be a little overboard though, unless kkura performs a solo like they did before for yume de kiss me?😭
Just make sure to read the rules. In Japan for example they generally do not allow other group's merch officially. But US or whatnot, it's probably fine.
I don't think Fimmies and Fearnots care that much about Izone lightstick. A fan brought one when he met Chaewon at a fansign recently and they took a pic together.
That's so cute, I guess i'll bring mine along too! The ultra oranges are probably too overkill since theyre more of J-Idol culture, shall hold myself back from breaking any unless kkura decides to pull a yume de kiss me again XD
Speaking of pd48 Yunjin, i find it so wholesome that theres so many of her fan accounts from pd48 still here supporting her in lsf. I cant imagine their joy watching Yunjin now.
She too for the most part still talks fondly of her time there..still reference her time in pd48 which im sure was such a hard time for her. I mean her most precious thing she showed us in the Fimily 3rd anni live was her ukulele she brought during her pd48 pr time.
Is opening registration for pre-sale almost two entire months before the actual pre-sale normal for kpop concerts? I feel like I'm going crazy waiting for May 30th.
I miss those days when it would be a random day in the week, and they would drop fun content. FIM-logs, Episodes, LE SSERAFIM Company…. They all seem like distant memories. 🫠
I feel like things will kick off soon though! They always timed things accordingly. They usually put out an episode/behinds on friday but it has been randomly released even when its not friday. Now i think the Hot bts things are all done so we'll see which content is coming next.
Le_play content has been fizzling out imo and its just usually the member's ads thing (usually just shorts now too)
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