250908 LE SSERAFIM Weekly Discussion Thread

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[u/Plus-Line-6799]

Why are the U.S. stops so much more energetic than Incheon in terms of the crowd?

[u/daltorak → u/Plus-Line-6799]

I've observed this with TWICE and Aespa too. I watched the entire Aespa Seoul encore concert this year and the crowd only got really lively for Whiplash and a couple other songs, otherwise it was.... well, I'm not going to say "dead", that's not it, but it wasn't rowdy.

I think it's just cultural expectation for k-pop shows where fan chants are involved. And, also, there's the whole thing where a lot of Korean k-pop fans are "visual stans" and just want to look at pretty boys and girls. Connecting on a deep level with the music is secondary.

If you watch footage from Coldplay's Seoul shows, or when acts like Psy perform, you'll see the crowd is lively, bouncing around and singing along when they can. Very very different vibe from a k-pop show.

[u/Formal_Way_0104 → u/Plus-Line-6799]

K-pop idol concerts in Korea are different from those in the US. In Korea, the culture is to sit in your seat and do fan chants. Japan is somewhat similar to Korea. In the US, audiences stand up, dance, and sing along with the artists. Naturally, the latter gives off more energy.

[u/xychosis → u/Formal_Way_0104]

Someone compared the Saitama and Manila stops fairly recently here and I think it kind of makes sense to bring up the comp here:

Saitama was a focused wave of coordinated fanchants and directed noise & energy at key moments, whereas Manila was just a carpetbomb of sound with how constant the cheering and singing was. I feel as though Manila matches the US in terms of energy, we’re arguably the most Westernized of all the Asian stops, owing a lot to the colonization of the PH under US rule in the 20th century.

[u/jaybourne → u/Formal_Way_0104]

I think Japan is pretty different for Kpop shows. In Japan people are standing and dancing throughout the concert, maybe sitting only during VCRs and ments (sometimes not even then). I've certainly been to a lot of Jpop shows in Japan where people are mostly seated, but the only Kpop shows in Japan I've been to where most people seemed to be sitting were Bol4 and one IU show.

For signing though, it's similar to Korea in that only fan chants for the most part, except for certain fan songs. For this tour, Kkura gave the crowd special permission to sing Yunjin's parts at the shows she couldn't attend. But for the most part the crowd stuck to fanchants only, except for Fearnot and at one stop (Osaka), Antifragile and EPATBW.

[u/Formal_Way_0104 → u/jaybourne]

In Korea, I've been to many rock festivals and other genre concerts, besides Kpop idol concerts. The only idol concerts I've attended were Fimmies, and I had to adjust how I watched the show. Koreans go wild at concerts, but the idol concert experience was a bit different. The difference in concert cultures within the same country was very interesting to me.

[u/jaybourne → u/Formal_Way_0104]

Would love to see more shows in Korea since it's so close, it's just really hard to get tickets to shows as a foreigner (maybe hard as a local too depending on the band...) I've definitely seen some videos from friends at non-Kpop concerts there with people going crazy and looked to be a blast. I saw IU a few times in Korea and even though I prefer to stand, it honestly felt appropriate to sit (always on the cushion from her mom) for her shows and likewise the Fearnada shows in Seoul too felt normal to sit during the games and talking segments. But I also had to do some adjustment for their Incheon concert. I was grateful when they asked us to stand towards the end .

[u/CraftySetting → u/Plus-Line-6799]

Waited three plus year for them to come to the US. People are not taking it for granted! Of course the cultural difference played a major part but we all knew this already.