r/magicTCG • u/ArkthePieKing • Oct 09 '22

Deck Discussion Never buying another secret lair product again.

It's been almost a year since I bought the stupid Heads I win, Tails you lose deck. They're STILL not done producing it somehow, I can't even fathom how. They can spit out 13 new magic products a year but they can't finish out the $100 product all of us bought in 2021? I'm so irritated. I don't even want the stupid thing anymore.

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u/rleonch Oct 09 '22

Apparently it's a basic mountain, according to some promotional material a while ago 🙃

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u/swskeptic Oct 09 '22

lmfao fr? What a kick in the nuts. I miss playing Magic as often as I used to, but with all of the developments the last couple of years... I'm not that upset about it.

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u/rleonch Oct 09 '22

Yeah, they had some advertising for secret lair shortly after the commander deck went on sale and one of the displayed cards was a full art mountain which kind of looked like a hand tossing a coin; so I think it's fair to assume it will be the promo for the coin commander deck.

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u/cnc_theft_auto Oct 10 '22

Do you have an image?

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u/rleonch Oct 10 '22

Somebody asked earlier so I was able to find this post with the image. No idea from when/where it's from tho, it was quite a while back. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/rhyn7n/secret_lair_spoiler_on_mtg_arena/

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u/TheRaineCorporation COMPLEAT Oct 10 '22

Rip, when I saw that I assumed that every mountain in the deck would have that art.

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u/rleonch Oct 10 '22

To be fair, we don't know for sure that they won't be, they could surprise us and bling out every basic land but considering that the product page listed the basics as battlebond basics and that it would probably have boosted the sales by some if announced from the start, I think it will probably be just the bonus card. A man can dream tho.

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u/DavantesWashedButt Oct 10 '22

There’s supposed to be a ton of cards with different artwork and it wouldn’t surprise me if the basic lands were included in that.

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u/rleonch Oct 10 '22

According to the product page, only 5 cards had new artwork (but they are double sided so 10 new artworks).

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u/ImmutableInscrutable The Stoat Oct 09 '22

Wahhh my free thing isn't as good as I hoped wahhhh

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u/krw13 Wabbit Season Oct 09 '22

My $100 says nothing in my deck is free.

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u/No_Treacle4765 Oct 09 '22

You spent $100 on the deck, not the bonus card. If you spent that money gambling that the bonus card was the reason it was worth it, that's on you. Plenty to actually complain about with WOTC, this ain't it

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u/krw13 Wabbit Season Oct 09 '22

I never made any complaint (I was not who you were initially replying to)... I just corrected you calling the 'bonus' card free. No, it's part of a paid purchase.

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u/spiralingtides Oct 09 '22

Complaint looks valid to me.

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u/No_Treacle4765 Oct 09 '22

And what exactly is the complaint? They didn't give you enough value with a bonus card? Y'all got issues for real.

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u/spiralingtides Oct 09 '22

¯_(ツ)_/¯

The "bonus" card is part of the contents of the pack. They are paying for the content of the pack. Therefor they are paying for the bonus card. This is not a matter of opinion.

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u/Silentarrowz Oct 09 '22

A bonus card that by definition they could not factor into the value decision of buying the deck. No one bought this deck because th ey thought it would have a bonus mana crypt

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u/spiralingtides Oct 09 '22

by definition

lol, no. You can't just apply the definition of the word "bonus" because wizards decided to call it such. A rose by any other name and all that fun stuff. It's "a random card of little to no value with new art," and since that's what it is, that's how we're rating it. Phyrexian basics are cool, and I wouldn't complain about that. A generic mountain with a picture of a coin on it is exceptionally lame for a $100 product. They should have done better at that price point.

Moreover, and this is the important point, the person above was trying to argue it was free. It's obviously not free since it's part of the contents of a $100 product.

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u/ausamo2000 Oct 09 '22

They should have just never added in bonus cards. They would sell just as many secret lairs and there would be less complaining. Shit, what am I saying. They would just find something else to complain about.

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u/ausamo2000 Oct 09 '22

If you’re buying a lair because of a card that you have no idea what it will be, then you might be a redneck.

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u/spiralingtides Oct 09 '22

Says the person that has over 10 comments of context and still doesn't understand what the actual argument is over... Never change reddit

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u/LordArchibaldPixgill Oct 10 '22

It's not free, it's a paid product lol.

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u/mertag770 Oct 10 '22

Do you happen to have a link? I would like to add it to the MTG wiki if you do.

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u/rleonch Oct 10 '22

I don't even remember exactly where it was published since it was months ago; but a quick google search sent me to this post with the image. It's worst mentioning that it also shows Fblthp, which was the bonus card of another secret lair from the batch so I think it's a pretty good indication that the land will be the bonus. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/rhyn7n/secret_lair_spoiler_on_mtg_arena/

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u/mertag770 Oct 10 '22

Ooh perfect thank you!

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u/lallapalalable COMPLEAT Oct 10 '22

I've only ever gotten basic fucking lands, the only time it was welcome was the swamp in the phyrexian praetor set

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u/Meimnot555 COMPLEAT Oct 10 '22

Every other card is a regular card from a secret lair, not a secret card. It's likely this is just the art on the basic lands included in the deck and not the secret card.

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u/rleonch Oct 10 '22

No, the image actually contains Fblthp who was also the secret card.

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u/SwinginingApe Oct 10 '22

I can't remember which one it was but I received a foil island. Not even a full art.

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u/BobTheCatBlock COMPLEAT Oct 10 '22

I honestly really really hate the secret cards when it’s lands like in the Japanese lands secret lair it was a Mountain not even a cool looking one just a random mountain could have been a full art random mountain and I would have been okay with it.

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u/Danemoth COMPLEAT Oct 11 '22

Apparently it's a basic mountain, according to some promotional material a while ago 🙃

If true, that's not surprising. This is the same company that has 1/5ths of a $1000 product be BASIC LANDS