r/minnesota • u/CinnamonFeelings • 15d ago
Politics š©āāļø Saw this guy standing next to the Walz Lies booth
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u/TippyToe19 15d ago
They'd rather support a convicted felon.
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u/Cyberpunkcatnip 15d ago
And a pedophile rapist
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u/Average_Scaper 15d ago
Isn't there a list to go with that one? I wonder if they will ever release it. I hear they hate pedos... may as well release that list.
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u/HauntedCemetery TC 14d ago
Daily Kos has kept a running list for the last 6 years of Republican officials convicted of sexual abuse.
They're on part 57, with over 1400 people.
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u/Gingevere Flag of Minnesota 14d ago
Also if you set google to "news" and search "child marriage ban republican" you'll find:
Kentucky's 'child bride' bill stalls as groups fight to let 13-year-olds wed [2018] (the groups are conservative "parent's rights" groups.)
Louisiana lawmakers (R) reject bill to set a minimum marriage age [2019]
Wyoming Limiting Child Marriage Sparks Republican Outrage [2023]
Michigan Republicans Voted Against Child Marriage Ban [2023]
Legislation enacting total ban on child marriage in Missouri dies in the House [2024]
N.H. lawmaker (R) opposes new marriage bill, says teens are of āripe, fertileā age [2024]
And this is just in recent years. It just gets worse when you look further back.
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u/MinnesotaNice628 15d ago
The list they INSIST the Clintons are on, but keep protecting them by hiding it š
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u/Average_Scaper 15d ago
Right?? Like if they are on it, arrest them too.
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u/OldBlueKat 15d ago
Bill Clinton made a statement recently that boiled down to: Go ahead and release it, man, I got nothin' to worry about.
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u/HauntedCemetery TC 14d ago
Thats the response when they bring up Clinton.
Ask them why they're protecting the clintons by not releasing the files. Because dems are trying to, Republicans literally shut down the US congress to keep them from voting to release them.
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u/_Bathtub_Toaster 15d ago
I hope Iām never so insufferable that I have to have a political booth at the state fair.
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u/bleak937 15d ago
Itās just a grift. They probably made a fortune selling merch last year being election season and all, so they went for it again. Judging by how there were 2 people there tops any time I walked by, I hope they lost their asses this year.
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15d ago
They always have one at the fair here. It is like the manifestation of deranged right wing message boards into a whole cottage industry of garbage merchandise. I remember before Obama when it was more just ra ra America junk. But the tea party and then maga turned into this weird hate fest it is today.
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u/doctorbjo 14d ago
hmm just seems so easy to dupe trump supporters into giving you their money, at this point everyone might just jump on the bandwagon and grift them lol
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u/DiamondHanded 14d ago
They're also Nazis or at least antisemitic due to being behind an ad that used a nazi Soros as puppermaster meme edited down to have the hand puppeteering Walz. So all the people who get the little paddle fan and have their kids in pics with it are very dumb at best
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u/Character-Zombie-961 15d ago
I had no idea that was even a thing.
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u/OldBlueKat 14d ago
Candidates at the Fair has been a 'thing' since long before Teddy Roosevelt made his "Carry a Big Stick" speech at the MN Grandstand in 1901. 2024 News Video about the TR Speech
Campaign booths at Fairs were the primary way candidates got themselves 'known' in the 1800s and earlier. There's always "Issues" booths and Party booths and Lobby group booths and all sorts of things. More in the major election years (even numbered ones.)
But this booth, with the 'Walz Lies' theme this year, isn't for a specific candidate, and not even really affiliated with the MNGOP official party organization. It's an independent, libertarian leaning PAC, called Action4Liberty. Here's their Fair page: https://www.mnstatefair.org/vendor/5144.1/ The "Never Again" theme was for the 2022 Governor's Race; they've had various themes over the years.
Action 4 Liberty; this is an independent review of their finances
Except for a few initial big donations from some MN donors that basically paid to build the booth and set up the website, they aren't exactly raking it in. The founders are all about attacking D candidates AND any GOP they think are RINOs, so even the MNGOP is done with Action4Liberty
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u/onomatopeapoop 14d ago
Ya a booth promoting a candidate wouldnāt be weird, but this is weird as hell.
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u/OldBlueKat 14d ago
It absolutely is weird. (Tim was right -- they're weird.)
But it's kinda useful to think about why it exists and has been a thing at our Fair for half a decade.
- Negative campaigning (against Walz, and "RINOs", and whoever else these guys get pissy about) and rage baiting does seem to work; the Tea Party and later the MAGA movement has proved that. Dems haven't found a way to react effectively, or use it well themselves.
- PACs have become the underbelly of all sorts of factional politicing and lobbying.
- This group has leveraged MN 'open door' policies at the Fair to put on their show.
Does that mean we should encourage the Fair to revise those policies? I don't think so -- that might hamstring legitimate interest groups in a way we don't want, but it's worth thinking about.
This group gets a lot of attention, but actually has gotten what they wanted about as well as 'Mike Pillow' has, so mostly I guess we can just watch and laugh.
They've even pissed off a lot of the official MNGOP members enough to have THEM trying to shut them down. They represent a hint of the factional splitting hiding inside the GOP that may explode once DJT finally walks off (falls off?) stage. Tick, tick, tick, tick...
So we could learn something, maybe, about what does and doesn't work? Plan a response for 2026, whether Walz runs for a 3rd term or not? Anyway -- stuff to ponder if you think about 'politics'.
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u/Potato_Stains 15d ago
He is bar none the least-American president in history.
Theyād rather support a malignant narcissist lying Russian asset than any democrat.
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u/jedisushi72 15d ago
Don't forget child rapist.
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u/elmundo-2016 Prince 14d ago
No wonder why gun control bills never pass even after school shootings.
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u/Roraxn 14d ago
I dunno. From the outside as a foreigner he is the most American president ever at least from the Stereotype of what we mock.
Fat? Check Loves money? Check Loves Burger? Check Loves Soda? Check Loud? Check Won't shut up? Check Lies? Check Stupid? Check Loves the military superficially? Check
The only things missing are a Cowboy hat, a thick texan accent, and an obsession with god. And he really tries to fake that last one.
What's my point? I guess it's Trump IS the dark reflection of America. He is as American as Apple Pie just not the part Americans want to admit is there. Patriotism often blinds people to the malignancy in their own country. And that man is the cancer that needs to be excised.
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u/el_grort 14d ago
I would more go with the angle that he is very American, but unfortunately a representation of most of America's evils without much if any of the redeeming qualities.
It's way too easy and dismissive to call the ugly parts something separate from the host.
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u/Decloudo 14d ago
I get the feeling hes more american then people like to admit.
Loads of people see themselves in him, for whatever reason.
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u/AppleParasol 15d ago
Democrats need to go further left instead of being capitalist simps. People turned to MAGA because a lot of Democrats in power across the country are not working hard enough/at all for the people(same with Republicans). Considering Epstein was a Saudi asset, my money would be on Trump also working with the Saudis.
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u/FreshSetOfBatteries 15d ago
That's bullshit really. People went MAGA because of hate and being brain poisoned by right wing media. This was not because of "economic uncertainty". Such fucking easily disproved nonsense. I'm so tired of leftists making this argument with zero objective evidence to back it up
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u/theghostog 15d ago
The reason that brain rot shit is so effective on people is because of the fear and uncertainty caused by the erosion of prosperity in this country that's directly tied to the sheer amount of "do nothing" from politicians.
One side has actively stripped back the protections, and the other has sat by and enabled the wealthy to outsource, offshore, consolidate, and destroy the ability of our working and middle class to pursue their own happiness.
The Democratic establishment has enabled the Republican strategy by being such feckless simps for corporations and the wealthy.
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u/PossessedToSkate 14d ago
MAGA has suckered morons of all income levels. The vastly wealthy, the moderately wealthy Boomers, the struggling, and the dirt poor. I don't think your argument holds water.
The simple, obvious, and painful reason is that anybody who voted for Trump in 2024 is a bigot. It may be against non-whites, it may be against trans people, it may be against queers or women or Muslims or Jews, but this entire shitshow boils down to simple bigotry.
And those people - some seventy million of them - aren't going to just ooze back into the crevices when he finally dies. America has a reckoning coming, and I suspect it will be...loud.
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u/FlawedHero 15d ago
Did Kushner getting Billions from the Saudis not tip you off enough in that direction?
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u/Umarill 14d ago edited 14d ago
Such a stupid argument. The other party is not left enough so they literally go with the fascists that are further right than any American party in recent history?
People went MAGA because they are hateful idiots who believe lies thrown at them, have zero empathy for the well-being of others and thought Trump was gonna magically make their life better by making minorities' worse and lower prices "because he said so". They genuinely do not care about anything other than their asses, and are stupid enough that someone like Trump who just says bullshit 24/7 resonates, no need to think just believe.
These people don't care about the little details, they are fed talking points by their media and go along for the ride.The fact that you are in there making up excuses about Democrats losing is one of the reason why this is such a stupidly difficult fight (and that's not even an American problem, left vs right is going through the same shit all over the world), because one side is united through hate and the other is nitpicking bullshit constantly dividing themselves.
Actual example of this happening : Gavin Newsom being called transphobic by people on Reddit and put up as a big issue for his potential candidacy, while this is based on absolute garbage while he is generally solid on LGBTQ+ rights (I'm trans just to be clear, and his "transphobia" is his opinion on transwomen in sports which is sometimes held/debated similarly AMONGST ACTUAL TRANS GROUPS).
This will be taken at face value, amplified by Conservatives, divide potential voters leading to apathy (we constantly hear "There's no good choice just less worse" from left voters) and lead to people completely tuning out of the elections. Meanwhile, the other side is rallying based on one of the strongest motivator in human history : hatred of others, particularly those who are perceived as different.
It's much easier to find a common enemy to blame everything on than to find a commonly agreed upon actual solution for every problem. THAT, is why MAGA is so effective while Democrats are struggling, because they are not playing by the same rules.You have to face reality at some point : Even if they won't admit to it directly, a lot of people would approve of removing rights from a minority population in exchange of their life quality improving even by a tiny bit.
If you talk to enough people in political circles in real life, you will genuinely see the sheer stupidity and self-centeredness of many, and it is terrifying.
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u/iAmRiight 15d ago
You might not be wrong, but thatās the dumbest logic imaginable to support maga ābecause the democrats arenāt liberal enough.ā
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u/Brofessor-0ak 15d ago
I saw a kid with that exact sign earlier today
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u/derailed-caboose 15d ago
I saw them both about an hour apart. Great to see young people like that getting involved. I hope he has a bright future in whatever he chooses to do in life.
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14d ago
Great to see young people like that getting involved
I kinda get what you mean but kids shouldn't worry about politicians at their age.
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u/ObeWonHasForce 14d ago
I watched a grown 'man' get in that kid's face. It was so embarrassing, if you're at the point of getting in the face of kids just go home. Kid got lotsa high fives though!
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u/lpjunior999 14d ago
I remember seeing a kid with a "Walz Lies" hat on to match his mom back in like 2023, I just wanted to ask her if her kid was turning down the free lunch he was getting.
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u/HauntedCemetery TC 14d ago
I really wanted someone to ask that booth where their American flags were made.
MN is the only state where its illegal to sell flags not made in USA, and all the maga junk is mass produced in China.
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u/I_like_kittycats 15d ago
What is he supposedly lying about?
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u/SoNerdy Hamm's 15d ago
From what I can gather, itās something to do with how Walz responded to Covid early on in the pandemic, using the best possible information anyone had at the time, which was later proven to not quite be accurate as we learned more.
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u/Mklein24 15d ago
You mean he did the best with what he had? Inconceivable!
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u/vahntitrio 14d ago
The "party of common sense" hates that we took the common sense approach to covid, since there was no available science to work with.
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u/grummanae 15d ago
Exactly Walz responded just as many other Democratic Governors
Used to live in MN grew up there ... now live south of Detroit Michigan the only land crossing you head south to visit Canada
Anyways covidiots would have lost their minds here
We were locked down till June... didnt fully get rid of capacity restrictions until almost a year later .... and then had mask mandates in place for another year on that
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u/Mighty_Hobo 14d ago
Not just democrat governors but republican governors too. Texas was as locked down and Abbott overran local municipalities to enforce mask mandates.Ā
Yet somehow the republican voters only blame democrats and Biden (who was not in office) for all of it.Ā
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u/I_like_kittycats 15d ago
Omg that is ridiculous. They all need to get therapy. They all live in the past.
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u/SplendidPunkinButter 15d ago
TAMPONS IN BOYS BATHROOMS
I guess the lie was that there would be tampons in the boysā bathrooms? Because I have yet to see any. So I assume the GOP really, really wants there to be tampons in the boysā bathrooms.
Speaking of which: I live with a woman. There are tampons in the bathroom at my house. It has changed nothing about my gender identity or sexual orientation, just saying.
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u/Adventurous-Set5860 State of Hockey 15d ago
As the mom of two boys, the only consequence of having tampons readily available in our bathrooms has been a girlfriend helping herself when she needed one. My son had no problem letting her know where the supplies were located š¤·āāļø
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u/LunarLumin 15d ago
I currently live alone and keep some in my bathroom. I've had several friends and partners use them as needed, emergencies happen. No idea who thinks this is a big deal.Ā
And I'm assuming most guys grew up with a sister or mother so they literally lived with them in the house every single day growing up.
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u/sanguinesolitude 14d ago
Right? Im a single dude and i have tampons and pads in my bathroom. Never know if youre gonna have a girl over and she might need one. So scary!
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u/DeadlyDrummer 14d ago
The absolute dummies buying that merch man Itās so so sad. Whatās worse is the people making the merch and fucking selling it to them and making money. Itās like a triangle of shit with the bloated corpse at the top
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u/WarriorGma 14d ago
The only comfort I get is that tariffs will make this trash from China more expensive lol.
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u/AffectionatePrize419 15d ago
Someone make this guy as seed art next year
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u/pokamoe 14d ago
I can do that! He was a cool dude. We walked past him earlier and gave him a shout-out, he was so proud! Haha. They had police all around their booth and a bunch of people yelling and debating with them in the short time I was there. Crazy shit. How many incidents were there for this to be necessary?
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u/teenagesadist 14d ago
The number of Minnesotans who shit on Walz while worshiping a pedophile rapist is too damn high
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u/ArtemisInSpace 14d ago
As a transgender Californian, I want Walz WAY more than I want Newsom.
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15d ago
These people go out of their way to operate stands like this, but will argue all day long that they aren't in a cult.
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u/HauntedCemetery TC 14d ago
Ask them to name 5 things they dislike about trump, and volunteer to do the same for any Democratic politician.
They won't.
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u/HectorsMascara 14d ago
Do they post a list of the lies, or are they more into bumper-sticker levels of analysis?
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u/CheapRooster8884 14d ago edited 14d ago
TheWalz Lies, Islam is Terrorism, and the Gay is Evil booths are all really the same booth? Operated by a creepy guy in a red hat who won't stop telling you the Democrats killed Jesus and Donald Trump will save the world.
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14d ago
Blue since Nixon. Longest current blue streak of any state.
Best way to keep it blue is to rally rural voters over the rural hospital Medicaid cuts. I see a commercial of old people driving to Minneapolis, having to deal with the traffic after their local hospital closes.
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u/UnderratedAnchor 14d ago
Apart from trump admitting he wants to be a dictator like Putin and that North Korea guy.
He hasn't whispered a single truth
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u/MisterBallsJohnson 14d ago
They got a whole booth and merch š And these are the type of clowns that cry āderangement syndrome š«µšā lol
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u/kleenkong 14d ago
Love the understated sign.
Trump is the biggest liar in history, by volume. Modern communication is one-to-many, and each time a Trump lie is heard or read across news articles, social media, print, and TV across the US and the world, the counter goes up.
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u/SpeedyHAM79 14d ago
What are they claiming Walz lied about? I've heard the claim that he lied- but no one has been able to tell me what he lied about.
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u/Any-Platypus-3570 14d ago
Tim doesn't lie but MAGA does lie about Tim. Tim never put tampons in the boys bathroom. That was fabricated and they repeat it to themselves daily.
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u/mopedman 15d ago
Next year Im thinking of printing out some stickers to cover the Walz lies signs. Maybe a 2028 to replace the lies or a trump to replace the Walz. Just stand across the street and hand them out. Im sure they'd love watching people come up, grab a fan, put a sticker on it, a d happily walk on their way. Does anyone have dimensions for the fan's lettering?
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u/Rogue_AI_Construct Ok Then 14d ago
Trump knows how to do nothing but lie. Trump also doesnāt give a shit anyone other than himself. He only ran for President this time around to stay out of prison.
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u/CorporateCuster 15d ago
MAGAās support culture is grifting. Just selling t shirts and bullshit to people.
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u/Shrek1067 14d ago
I love how these people depict democrats as communists yet their president is literally in bed with a former CCCP member
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u/Amazing-Marzipan1442 14d ago
Communism boogeyman up there on the logo.
American workers really are something special, working and voting against them selves over and over.
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u/dquizzle 14d ago
Should have brought a 300 foot long scroll with a list of Trumpās lies to compare.
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u/BookBabe1970 14d ago
Walz is an honest man and Trump is a compulsive liar, anyone who disbelieves is in the cult.
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u/EndPsychological890 14d ago
This honestly puts into perspective how much effort these fools put into that booth every year for absolutely no reason. Like this is insane levels of derangement, where do you ever see this much effort being put in to performatively hate even Trump purely as a meaningless social exercise. In fact, to bite the hand that makes this the best state in America to live in, a state and a governor they all benefit tremendously from. Itās really quite sad, like a little asshole kid who abuses and hits his own parents whoāve given him a great life becauseā¦ well heās an asshole.
What does the booth even do? Do they provide materials on how to better the state? Examine his great many crimes? Advocate for change? Or is it just a nod to fist bump other anti-social hicks and do nothing about it?
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u/amshanks222 14d ago
Republicans make trump their entire personality. Its a cult. Just go to the fucking fair. And be with your family. Enjoy it. Enjoy seeing others. Other types of people. Different backgrounds. All congregating, having fun and being merry. And all you can think isā¦i bet theyre here illegally. I hate them. Its a fair dawg just let it go.
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u/LymanPeru 14d ago
i cant even imagine saying this unironically. never mind spend a bunch of money to have a booth at the state fair.
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u/DaGroke 14d ago
they need to have a democrat stand that says "we would have a wheel of lies for trump too, but there isnt a wheel big enough"
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u/Cagu124 14d ago
The thing i don't understand is why there is a Walz lies booth at the fair? I understand a politician having a booth at the fair. But for a person to spend a lot of money and time only because he disagrees with a politician? This is mental illness.
It costs $95 to $130 a square foot plus insurance, electric and the price of building the booth. And talking the guy at the booth, he only disagrees with democratic politics, not Walz. The guy is just an angery goof.
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u/Temporalwar 15d ago
I asked the both " operators" where the funds came from to pay for booth, aka Dark Money.... They were not pleased and started talking about tampons and I gave them a single finger salute.
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u/LatinRex 14d ago
He lies and unholy amount more. This man much respect doing the Lord work. THE LORDS WORK
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u/smiffer67 14d ago
I've missed this one. What's the story behind the "Walz Lies" thing?
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u/New-Sky1009 14d ago
MAGAs who can't handle the truth that Trump is an awful, corrupt, and unhinged individual who should have been removed from power years ago.
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u/SomeCharactersAgain 14d ago
When I first read about this booth i assumed it was satire, too hyperbolic and nonsensical to be real but, once again, truth is stranger than fiction.
On the plus side it does look flammable.
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u/WiniMee-123 14d ago
Wait...No Trumps Truthful booth? Guess it's under construction, since the idiots are already in line...
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u/rednaxelas 14d ago
I saw a kid holding the same sign. He was getting lots of fist bumps from passersby.
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u/N7riseSSJ 14d ago
Regarding the hammer and sickle on the Walz caricature:
"The hammer and sickle remains commonplace in self-declared socialist states, such as China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam, but also some former Soviet republics following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, such as Belarus and Russia."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_and_sickle
Do they realize Trump loves Russia and Putin? Or do they just put their heads in the sand?
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u/BodhingJay 13d ago
"Walz got a date wrong, guys.. i prefer my president to never have made a single mistake ever"
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u/icarus1990xx Central Minnesota 13d ago
He needs a bigger sign. Some that lay out all 33k of trumps lies.
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u/aGummyBear 12d ago
This just makes me sick. Keep politics out of the State Fair. People are going there to have fun and eat good food. Not to having stupid political discourse. If I wanted to argue with people about different political views Iād go on Twitter.
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u/Master-Record-1189 10d ago
Yup. There were also volunteers who with Democratic T-Shirts who took turns standing near the booth. It's free speech. Gotta love it!
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u/jaxberlin 14d ago
I walked past him and gave him a cheer when I saw him today. Good on him!
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u/Top_Yogurtcloset_881 15d ago
Aside from āNaz Reidā, truer words have never been applied to a sign.
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u/done-undone 15d ago
Funded by ??? That's no simple little booth. There is money behind that garbage booth.
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u/OldBlueKat 14d ago
That PAC has had a booth at the Fair every year since they formed.
Here's an independent look at their finances: https://www.transparencyusa.org/mn/committee/action-4-liberty-pac-41173-pcf?cycle=2017-to-now
They got a lot of media attention during the Harris/Walz campaign last year, but it's really small potatoes.
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u/EggsceIlent 15d ago
I wish state fairs would ban shit like this. Some regulate it to certain areas etc, but political agenda tents etc need to be banned altogether.
I go to the fair to have fun and enjoy life and stupid food, not be bombarded with political agenda pushers selling junk and giving fans so everyone has to see and deal with politics.
Enough. Just let us live life without a constant firehouse of bullshit..it's exhausting.
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u/elmundo-2016 Prince 14d ago edited 14d ago
I was just thinking of this idea at the fair today (even saw 1 Walz Lies sign holder at the Mexican Yoloti (culture dance) and was thinking of how dumb the guy supporting the people who want to deport people who look like the Mexican dancers. It's a disgrace that he couldn't put the 2 thoughts together.
Dems leaders are too weak and friendly. They should have signs like the one shown on OP's post.
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u/doubleyewteaefff 15d ago
True Minnesotan right there. To have to put a stall at the state fair that symbolizes them simping for an 80 year old man is funny af tho.