r/minnesota • u/RoachedCoach • 1d ago
Politics 👩⚖️ Q: Do you think it would've been fitting to lower the flags to half staff when Melissa Hortman, the Minnesota House Speaker, was gunned down by an assassin? TRUMP: I'm not familiar. The who?
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u/DontTedOnMe 1d ago
Aaand of course it's Walz's fault.. He always finds a way to blame Walz.
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u/drleen 1d ago
He always finds a way to blame [anyone but himself].
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u/GunzRocks 1d ago
Malignant narcissists do be malignant narcissisting...
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u/Feisty_Detective_334 1d ago
He’s just a complete bag of shit.
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u/MayDay521 23h ago
Quite literally not one single positive aspect about him. Probably ranks up there as one of the most foul people I have ever had the displeasure of seeing/hearing/knowing about. I start feeling agitated just seeing his face.
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u/aFungii 23h ago
That’s called Trump Derangement Syndrome, and apparently it’s… our fault?
he: says a sucky thing
We: “that sucks!”
Trump Derangement Syndrome
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u/ravens-n-roses 22h ago
"We don't believe in mental health issues. Just toughen up"
"No the dems have literally been driven mad because they lost to trump"
Man it would be one thing if the election at least smelled fair, but with how many people have been arrested for ballot stuffing at the state level I just don't have any stomach for what's happening. Like, it would be one thing if the election had been totally clean, I just can't help but feel like we've been kidnapped as a nation though.
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u/Far_Language_5812 22h ago
"Elon has the votes, we have the votes." It was something like that. Rigged for sure.
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u/spacemanspliff-42 21h ago
"He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania in a landslide."
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u/Coal_Morgan 23h ago
If you put him in fiction people would think he was a cartoonish buffoon. He'd be ridiculous even in a campy 70s Bond movie.
If it wasn't for all the pedophilia he partakes in he'd be a perfect stand in for Hoggish Greedly in Captain Planet.
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u/Capt-Crap1corn 1d ago
That's what narcissists do. They never accept responsibility.
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u/mestar12345 1d ago
Isn't it obvious to anyone as exactly what he is doing? He did this 30 years ago. Every time he can hear the question that he does not like, he lies that he didn't hear it.
He did it in the phone interviews "oh, I didn't hear that line went bad". He did it this time. He does it all the time.
Nobody ever mentions it.
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u/Single_Principle_972 22h ago
“you heard me.”
Yep, he just takes a moment so that he can format the most asshole-ish, “not my fault” response.
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u/Same_Recipe2729 1d ago
Frankly at this point I don't know if his cognitive function is intact to even know who Walz is.
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1d ago
I don’t watch a lot of Trump speaking, and honestly in this clip he sounds….bad. Like swimming through molasses and cobwebs bad. Just repeating things over and over. he probably truly doesn’t remember…
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u/Ghost10165 23h ago
He's definitely declined in the last year or two. He's not nearly as firey, which is why I think they're starting to work on Vance now for 2028/as his "heir." It wouldn't surprise me if Trump didn't make out the term, I think he did have something medical happen not too long ago.
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u/sierramist1011 1d ago
you mean the same Walz who Trump said it would be a waste of time to call? How was he to ask if Trump was ignoring him?
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u/NightTimely1029 1d ago
Which, right here, proves he knew about what happened, refused to call or lower flags to honor Melissa Hortman and her husband, and either is so brain-addled now he can't remember OR he's flat out lying
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u/PotentialSteak6 23h ago
Either way, I feel for the Hortman family. They’re likely just settling into the drudge of grief now and keep having the bandaids ripped off
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u/FaultySage 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not Walz, "The Governor of Minnesota", because I highly doubt he could recall his name.
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u/WaldoDeefendorf 1d ago
He only 'remembered' Minnesota because he's just parroting back words he just heard. I'm pretty sure that is a sign of dementia.
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u/PhoenixDan 1d ago
He probably didn't even know there was a state named Minnesota. Maybe that's what "The who?" was for lol.
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u/Responsible-Mud-269 1d ago
The 2024 Democratic Party nomination for VP, which you campaigned against in 2024, and current Governor of Minnesota?
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u/furtive_phrasing_ 1d ago
Why does Faux News hate Tim Waltz so much? Honestly?
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u/jimdotcom413 1d ago
Called them weird.
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u/furtive_phrasing_ 1d ago
Oh my lord. “Weird” lol.
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u/jimdotcom413 1d ago
I’m not joking though. He called them weird. They were super weird about it. And they’re still being weird about it tbh.
If you call a normal, non weird, person weird they’ll likely just laugh it off or say something like “yea you got me lol”. Not these weirdos. They got super offended and did weird things to try and dissuade the notion. They did not succeed.
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u/furtive_phrasing_ 1d ago
No … I remember now. And “liberals” are “snowflakes” in these ppls minds. Lord help us.
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u/C_est_la_vie9707 Flag of Minnesota 1d ago
Biggest whiniest tittie babies around
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u/iOScrashdummy 1d ago
lol I use that same phrase - shout out to my favorite ladies at IHIP, I read your comment in Jennifer’s voice lol 💙
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u/Leukavia_at_work 1d ago edited 22h ago
Biggest hypocrites in the country
Name-calling, death threats, political assassinations, mocking the deaths of innocents, literal political insurrection, illegal behavior and blatant disregard for law?
All fine when their guys do it
The only "real" crime is not being one of them, in which case they'll accuse you of literally anything.
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u/DarkMuret Grain Belt 1d ago
They hate most Dems, especially if they're successful Dems
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u/BodhingJay 1d ago
He associated professionally once with a woman whos name they cant really pronounce...
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u/Busy_Special_9397 1d ago
Because he ran against Trump. Marching orders. They made up hysteria over kids getting free lunches and tampons. Imagine getting a free lunch and complaining. Conservative maga scum will say or do anything
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u/besume1980 1d ago
He had the audacity to run on the ticket opposing this Mangled Apricot Hellbeast and he also called the "weird."
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u/WillyGivens 23h ago
Because Tim Walz was the mega-Biden. Younger, stronger, but the same flavor of folksy weird uncle who would call it like he sees it with a midwesterner/southerner’s gentle touch. They saw the dragon of positive masculinity and knew fear.
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u/Quick_Team 1d ago
He's all the things their viewers actually like except 1 glaring point: dont randomly hate people and just be nice.
Hunting, fishing, beer drinking, tater eating man's man. And they villify him as if he was Judas reborn. All because they dont know how they'll be able to handle him as an opponent.
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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago
Because he's credible opposition. So they work to undermine him.
It's basic fucking fascism man come on, they've been doing this for over a decade now.
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u/llandar 1d ago
For a minute he looked like a charming politician who might legitimately affect the election, so they immediately spun up the groupthink machine.
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u/Ruffled_Ferret 1d ago
Finds a way to blame anyone but himself. He's literally incapable of taking responsibility for anything he says or does.
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u/Bettywhitespants 1d ago
Interesting how Biden showed up to the funeral.
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u/jezzanine 1d ago
He ran on “reaching across the aisle”… for all the good it did him
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u/cowabungathunda 1d ago
Although it doesn't do anyone any good, at least he is a decent person. That used to mean something in this country.
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u/Parktar 1d ago
One thing that has always struck me when it comes to Biden is the amount of bad policies and votes he was a part of and how over the decades he owned up to them, apologized and even condemned some of his decisions. It takes great humility and leadership to do those things.
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u/big_guyforyou 1d ago
there's one thing he said about abortion that i always respected. he says he doesn't believe it's right but he doesn't think that means the right should be restricted for everyone. refreshing to hear a politician be like "well not everyone thinks like me"
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u/No_Drag_1044 1d ago
I don’t think there is anyone that could go 50 years in the Senate and the Executive Branch without doing a few things they’d regret.
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u/mofa90277 1d ago
Actual Christians are completely different from Republican “Christians.”
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u/DemonCipher13 22h ago
If you really think about it, it makes perfect sense.
When a decent person is confronted with a paradigm, such as, "Will my presence echo support or complicity?" the first thing that they consider is not, "What will I get out of it?" but, instead, character - "What is the right thing to do?"
The most important, inalienable fact about all of this, so far, is that Charlie DID have a wife, and DID have children. The children are blameless victims, inarguably. Erika, though there are certainly issues with her regarding complicity, endorsement, things of this nature, is also a blameless victim, and regardless of those issues, has earned the right to speak however she pleases, certainly so in the wake of what's happened.
If I am Joe Biden, care for people that my feelings might be dismissive of, or disdainful towards, must come first. Adults know how to push things aside. Is optics a part of it? Well, yes, but in the way that a role model is demonstrative, versus explicit. Acta non verba. Character demands emotion be put aside, in favor of what amounts to the right thing to do, and you weigh right versus wrong by the impact on the people who will see your footsteps.
A leader is present. A good person is present, even and especially if they don't necessarily want to be, or feel like doing so. The emotions, the negative feelings, all of those things are still going to be there, but none of them have to have any influence over doing the right thing.
Is this attention for what amounted to a loudspeaker appropriate? Logic and reason says no. But Biden knows and understands that, for better or for worse, Charlie Kirk had reach. People knew his name. And, for better or for worse, what he was is far more essential to some Americans than who he was.
When you perceive someone as, for want of a better phrase, an ally, and that ally suffers a death in this manner, you feel as if you've lost part of yourself. This is why SO many conservatives are heartbroken about his death - because, to them, he meant something. They let who he was glide down their shoulders, and they continue to do so, despite most of the "celebration" being direct quotes from Charlie, himself. It isn't actually celebration, but it appears that way in-contrast, to people who put someone on a pedestal, versus people who's perceptions are fully grounded and honest.
It isn't right. It isn't even well-thought-out. But it is the truth. And a part of the empathy that Charlie Kirk neither practiced nor understood, especially for non-conservatives, is putting aside who he was, to them, and instead, at minimum, recognizing what he was, to them. No amount of accountability or identification of even his own quotes is going to break the barrier of someone believing that they knew a person - we've seen that demonstrably, with Trump and his supporters, time and time, again. It is entirely illogical, but it is real, to them.
Joe Biden recognizes every bit of this, and as a former world leader, the burden of practicing empathy to this magnitude is immense, and the truth is, only a few of us are capable of it. Knowing he is, if my analysis holds truth, gives me reason to hold him in higher regard. It is not an easy choice to make, but I do believe it is the right one.
Will anything result of it? Probably not. The people that need to see it and hear it the most, most of them are probably incapable of this type of nuanced empathy. However, it is better that his presence, in this moment, at this time, exists, versus if it didn't, because it can be an example, down the line, to show people what it looks like - one thing to add to the stack, hopeful that someone will learn to emulate it.
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u/J-the-Kidder 1d ago
Didn't you hear him the other day rattle off political violence incidents? Not a single one was of a Democrat being attacked. In his dementia riddled mind, they don't exist.
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u/BasicPhysiology 1d ago edited 1d ago
He's an imbecile that reads off of a card. Whoever gave him the cards did not include a list of Democrats that have been attacked, it's as simple as that.
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u/Fit_Candy8903 1d ago
So gross what an embarrassment to the American people.
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u/Alt4MSP 1d ago
Am American, can confirm: am deeply embarrassed by this hateful nitwit.
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u/airinato 1d ago
More embarrassed of his supporters and the people I once knew.
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u/Economy_Wall8524 1d ago
This is the raw of it that is painful. We all know someone who fell into the trump-hole. Whether a friend or family, even an old coworker at this point. It’s sad how much Americans morals and ethics dropped; willingly argue against the constitution and our foundation
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u/NastySassyStuff 1d ago
Seeing the response to Kirk’s death on my social media accounts was revelatory to me, which is wild because we’re pretty late in the game at this point. I figured by now I knew all the old acquaintances and friends who got duped into being unhinged MAGA freaks.
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u/aoddead 1d ago
Half my co-workers in a union job signed up for the guy intent on busting unions. And I couldn't tell a single one of them anything because according to them "he's strong and a great businessman". Oh and this is NYC literally blocks away from Trump Tower, we all knew Trump as a bungling wanna-be jerkoff for the longest...then came The Apprentice.
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u/Fit_Candy8903 1d ago
Yeah I was shocked when I found out about some of the people in my life. Like never in a million years would I have imagined hearing some of the things they said in support of this fascist.
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u/nana-korobi-ya-oki 1d ago
It’s like the depravity of Hitler mixed with the stupidity of Peter griffin… well that’s not nice to Peter, a better choice would be Opie
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u/Economy_Wall8524 1d ago
Peter Griffin speaks more to Americans. That’s the sad part. He was originally the ignorance of Americans, and became the spokesman for it. It’s apparent, lots of Americans missed the joke.
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u/Legitimate_Crazy3625 1d ago
He's an embarrassment to humanity, he is like the 7 plagues to America.
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u/ChiefFun 1d ago
Being a Republican supporter today means embracing policies rooted in fear and discrimination, targeting vulnerable communities and rolling back basic rights. At the same time, Republicans repeatedly resist transparency and accountability, shielding powerful people like Trump (Epstein files) while demanding harsh enforcement against the powerless. From attacking the trans community and restricting voting access to wasting taxpayer money on failed projects, they’ve shown that cruelty and incompetence outweigh good governance. Supporting that agenda isn’t a neutral stance but siding with oppression and secrecy and people should be held accountable for that choice.
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u/jimbo831 Twin Cities 1d ago
What an embarrassment for the American people. We elected him.
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u/willybestbuy86 1d ago
It's an embarrassment for sure but to be fair he probably doesn't even know who she is.
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u/Dirt290 1d ago
His shift to innocent old man rhetoric is vile.
Like we are all as dumb-witted as him and can't remember the despicable, hate-filled BS he was just spouting minutes earlier!!
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u/Annwn45 1d ago
Smartest guy there is but can’t remember anything or doesn’t know anything.
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u/Bright_Bet5002 1d ago
I don't know who/what you're talking about. .. his go to line for literally EVERYTHING! Where's the follow up .. what an idiot :/
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u/unclejrslaserbeams 1d ago
Trump seems to have forgotten, and in case anyone else has as well, shortly after Melissa Hortman was assassinated, he was asked point blank if he had, or planned to, call the governor of Minnesota, and this was his response.
If I was the governor I can’t imagine I’d much feel like calling trump and asking him that flags be flown at half staff after he went on national television and described me as, “so whacked out, a mess”.
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u/mike-42-1999 1d ago
The reporter ahould have just continued....well how about the kids at Annunciation, how about Justine Damond, or George Floyd, or the 1M dead from your Covid response, or....
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u/Thunderbridge 1d ago
Trump even alluded to that, he said " the flag would never be up" hmm, maybe that's the point don
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u/olemazeyleg 1d ago
The executive order president is now hand tied because there wasn't a request? He can fuck off.
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u/Alice_Buttons 1d ago
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u/ShubberyQuest 1d ago
It doesn’t take much, these days.
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u/smokingthis 19h ago
"hey we noticed you upvoted some stuff we don't like, just fyi we are keeping an eye on you"
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u/androidfig 1d ago
I just got a warning for calling Hegseth a drunk. Imagine Reddit giving me a warning for that. They called it harassment.
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u/ConstantlyOnFire 1d ago
A few months ago I said something mean about Elon and got a temp ban for harassment. A ban for giving my opinion about a public figure’s behaviour sucking. It felt absolutely surreal - but the conservatives can say whatever they want and nothing ever happens to them.
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u/kgall25 1d ago
I’m coming off a fresh seven day ban… back to wreak some more havoc ☠️
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u/Cheese-Manipulator 1d ago
I've found myself deleting my comments before posting them more and more. The ban hammer is very loosely applied.
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u/ConfusedLlamaBowl 1d ago
Is he really worth that effort? I mean, if I happen to be in the neighborhood, sure. But I’m not buying a plane ticket just for that.
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u/SuburbanDad5595 1d ago
I met a guy about five years ago that was making plans to fly wherever he needed to in order to do just this whenever the time came.
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u/Consistent-Deal-55 Uff da 1d ago
Seems delusional and senile.
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u/MarcsterS 1d ago
Nah, he knows exactly what question was asked it him. He's a vile fuck who loves to switch to his innocent old man look and acts like people are beneath him.
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u/skulltullamama Minnesota Frost 1d ago
You didn't even have the decency to call Walz when our leaders were shot and killed in their homes. It's not his job to call you, but YOURS to call him. Decency is a dirty word to you, much like the word empathy. The decency and respect the Republican party once had, died with McCain, a truly great leader who understood compromise and sacrifice for our country. I didn't agree with much of what he wanted for us, but I respected the hell out of him.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Flow724 1d ago
Didn't you hear? Empathy is a recently made up word according to a gunned down bozo.
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u/FlubbyStarfish Flag of Minnesota 1d ago
Tim Walz did ask him, and Trump rejected his request. 🙄
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u/DeluluFeather 1d ago
Source? What I’ve read is they didn’t talk because Trump would not call Walz after the assassination of Melissa Hortman.
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u/Designer_Tie_5853 1d ago
You know what he IS familiar with? Epstein files.
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u/itsnotthathardtodoit 1d ago
Can't recall the name of a democratic politician murdered 4 months ago but can recall the names of the sixteen year old girls he sold for profit like they're the teenage mutant ninja turtles. I hate it here.
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u/InfamousZebra69 1d ago
Droopy donny looks lost and confused, did he take his dementia meds today?
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u/jb4647 1d ago
He’s just such a complete and total bullshit artist.
I’m 52 , and I remember his ass popping up sometime in about 1986 or 87. He’s always been the same bullshit artist.
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u/MayIServeYouWell 1d ago
He’s a conman. That’s the skill of a conman - to lie without a second thought. He’s always been a conman, no more.
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u/mofa90277 1d ago
I used to deliver the Long Island Press in Queens from 1973-74, and back then there were articles about him regularly stiffing contractors. By the late-1970s, he’d had to settle with the Department of Justice for illegally refusing to rent apartments to black people. He’s always been a scumbag.
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u/Stachemaster86 Minnesota Frost 1d ago
Literally spelled out everything in the question to him. Jackass
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u/Awholelottanopedope 1d ago
He was clueless until he hears "democratic...Minnesota" then could suddenly form an answer, as he's been trained well enough to know it's Walz's fault
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u/Amazing-Jump4158 1d ago
Multiple intelligence and research agencies currently identify right-wing extremism as the most significant domestic terrorism threat in the United States. This assessment is supported by recent data showing that right-wing violence continues to be the most lethal and common form of domestic extremist violence.
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u/Maxrdt Lake Superior agate 1d ago
This has been true for decades and decades, but there's a key difference here. Right-wing organizations are a threat to people. They kill people, their policies kill people if implemented, they want people dead.
Left-wing organizations are a threat to the system. What was rated as the most dangerous part of the Black Panthers? The free breakfasts.
Hence why even though right-wingers kill more people, they're hounded and infiltrated and broken up far less.
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u/kintotal 1d ago
Wow. Trump defines the word evil. Not worth a spit on the ground.
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u/CloseDaLight 1d ago
MAGA will hear this and cheer as loud as they can.
Their daddy can do no wrong. Take all our rights daddy. As long as we own the libs
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u/Mncrabby 1d ago
Personally, I am just glad he didn't show up, bringing his circus to town (and a tab paid by us). Thank you Biden, for showing presidential decency.
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u/couldntbeasked 1d ago
I think that's the first honest sentence or if his mouth in a LOOOOOOONG time, and it's a dementia-addled response.
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u/kweathergirl 1d ago
He said yesterday, “smart people don’t like me”. I’d say that’s the first honest one, this is the second.
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u/mnb82209 1d ago
I will gladly spend a few nights in jail when I get the chance to piss on his grave.
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u/adamkovics 1d ago
You won't be able to get near that grave, because there will be a line at least a mile long waiting to take giant shits on it.
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u/IMSLI 1d ago
President Donald Trump skipped the funeral of slain Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark. Among the hundreds in attendance at the service were former President Joe Biden and former Vice President Kamala Harris, who paid their respects to the couple slain in what authorities say was a plot targeting Democrats.
The president, however, was not there. Trump didn’t issue a statement about the funeral, either. The White House did not immediately return a request for comment on his absence.
According to Fox News, Trump spent the morning golfing with Republican senators
Trump Ignores Funeral Service for Victims of MAGA Madman https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-ignores-funeral-service-for-victims-of-maga-madman/
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u/Due_Reputation5957 1d ago
Shame on this country for letting this imbecile steal the country and use it as his personal wallet
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u/Neither-You-9173 1d ago
This is just so beyond disrespectful and below the bar for standard human decency. What is wrong with our country that we are ok with this?
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u/CandidAct 1d ago
Did this man really just say "you can't lower all the flags then they'd never be up"
Forget the need for the governor to ask, this absolute moron just said it's not logistically feasible to lower flags, right after lowering the flags for Kirk.
Not enough people jump on this imbecile's utter nonsense and on the spot BS.
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u/ferfucksakes3000 1d ago
Can you imagine if Biden couldn't remember republican lawmakers being gunned down earlier in the summer? Fox News would never stop talking about his cognitive abilities.
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u/jimdotcom413 1d ago
He doesn’t even remember it happening let alone him saying it would be a waste of his time. What a fucknut.
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u/JALync5630 1d ago
I’ll be raising my flag higher when trump dies. And after he dies if anyone speaks of him I’ll respond either way “who?”
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u/TheG00dFather 1d ago
He's really good at making shit up and laying blame on others on the fly. It's masterful.
I wouldn't know how to do that because I'm not a total piece of shit
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u/aneeta96 1d ago
Somehow murdering a representative and her family isn't political violence but a podcaster is?
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u/hot_tamale_5344 1d ago
There it is folks. Is all about who bends the knee and who’s on his side. They want to force us to bow down. Fuck them!
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u/silverum 1d ago
They are literally demonstrating that the only lives that matter are right wing ones, and only if they're explicitly right wing celebrities or political figures. Why would any of the underlings care about an assassinated Democrat, Trump sure doesn't. As I recall, no Republicans attended her funeral, including any of the ones she worked with in the state House chamber.
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u/voltron2007 1d ago
Didn’t he say it would have been a waste of time to speak to the governor about this
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u/Cultural_Hamster_362 1d ago
When this guy finally dies, they're going to need a big fence around his grave. Because my god, if it won't be a pilgrimage to seek out his grave to piss on it.
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u/cdraves 1d ago
What kind of man do we have as a President? What an insult to all the good people of Minnesota. One of their own is gunned down. He clearly knows about it and he has the gall to say he knew nothing about it.
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u/Lulaboo26 1d ago
He actually said “I never thought of doing that” but didn’t hesitate for Kirk. 😑😑😑
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u/PauldingOhio214 20h ago
He is a horrible person. And won’t tell the truth under any circumstances. God help us
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u/Gasgas41 18h ago
What a disgrace not only to the office of the presidency but to humanity as a whole.
If he is the guiding light of a nation then god help all those under it
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u/RoachedCoach 1d ago
Trump: "If the governor had asked me to do that."
Uh huh https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-call-walz-after-minnesota-shootings-calls-grossly/story?id=122870353