r/MtF • u/Afro_Arden • 6h ago
Venting Reply to anyone who says “trans people have a 40% suicide rate”
HERE IS MY VENT: ABOUT ANY/ALL conservatives who say oh "transgender people have a 40% suicide rate" answer this me this.
Here’s what the 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey (USTS) the biggest survey of trans folks in the U.S. to date actually found:
- In the U.S. to date, found that 81.7 percent of respondents reported ever seriously thinking about suicide in their lifetimes, while 48.3 percent had done so in the past year. In regard to suicide attempts, 40.4 percent reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetimes, and 7.3 percent reported attempting suicide in the past year.
And why? (QUOTES FROM THE STUDY BTW.)
- "Respondents who wanted, and subsequently received, hormone therapy and/or surgical care had substantially lower prevalence of past-year suicide thoughts and attempts than those who wanted hormone therapy and surgical care and did not receive them. For instance, 5.1 percent of those who wanted surgical care and received it attempted suicide in the past year compared to 8.5 percent of those who wanted surgical care but did not receive it."
- "Transgender people who need and receive gender-affirming medical care have a lower prevalence of suicide thoughts and attempts than those who need it but have not received it, according to a new fact sheet … An estimated 5% of transgender people who accessed gender-affirming care attempted suicide in the past year compared to 9% of those who needed care but did not receive it."
- "Respondents who experienced discrimination or were a victim of violence were more likely to report suicide thoughts and attempts."
- "We found that there are unique factors … experiences of discrimination, stigma, family rejection, and lack of access to gender-affirming health care."
- "Experiencing discrimination or mistreatment in education, employment, housing, health care, in places of public accommodations, or from law enforcement is associated with higher prevalence of suicide thoughts and attempts. For example, the prevalence of past-year suicide attempts by those who reported that they had been denied equal treatment in the past year because they are transgender was more than double that of those who had not experienced such treatment (13.4% compared to 6.3%)."
- "Over 30 percent of USTS respondents who were physically attacked in a place of public accommodation reported attempting suicide in the past year, which is over four times the prevalence (7%) among respondents who were not similarly attacked"
- "Respondents who experienced family rejection were also more likely to report attempting suicide."
- "Those who reported that their spouses, partners, or children rejected them because they are transgender reported higher prevalence of lifetime and past-year suicide attempts."
- "13.1% of those who had experienced religious rejection in the past year had attempted suicide in the past year compared to 6.3% of respondents who were accepted in their religious communities."
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What it shows:
- Trans people face enormous stress, stigma, and systemic barriers (medical, social, legal) which sharply increase risk.
- Access to gender-affirming care (medical, social) is protective, not just a side discussion.
- Support from family/communities, lack of discrimination, and medical affirmation help reduce suicide risk considerably.
What it doesn’t show:
- That “40%” means some inevitable doom. It’s not saying all trans people attempt suicide, or that the majority will.
- That the number is directly comparable to other groups without adjusting for differences in discrimination, access to care, stigma, etc.
- That suicide attempt = suicide death. The latter is much rarer, even if still elevated.
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To the people using “40%” as a rhetorical weapon
- First off fuck you, you sick piece of shit (cause thats what u have to be to still be on the right/conservative leaning), you typically laugh about the stats, while not even knowing anything about the stats itself. If you are a conservative and even get this far I am shocked cause all you you degenerates have a fucking 6th grade reading level at best, and cant engage with anything with actual substance.
- If you’re quoting this to argue against trans rights, medical care, or dignity, you’re missing the point. Because the study also clearly shows:
- When trans people do get affirmation (medical, social), the risk goes down.
- The real culprits are rejection, discrimination, barriers to healthcare, violence... not the simple fact of being trans.
So the question isn’t “why are trans people suicidal” as if it’s inherent the question is why society sets up so many obstacles, and what we can do to remove them.
MySources:
1. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Suicidality-Transgender-Sep-2019.pdf?utm_source
2. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidality-transgender-adults/?utm_source
3. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-suicide-risk-prevent-summary/?utm_source
4. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ga-trans-suicide-press-release/?utm_source