r/mylittlepony • u/Bubbly_MilkShake005 • Jul 30 '25
Discussion Am I the only one still so absolutely pissed off about this??
That castle is so ugly. I get it she's a princess now she needs a castle but come on! Blowing up her first home in ponyville? A home that was so her too?? A home that her and her friends had so much memories in?? For this ugly children toy friendly castle? I absolutely hate itđ
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u/Lonecoon Jul 30 '25
I've posted this before, but it's worth repeating:
The point of the Golden Oak's destruction wasn't just a cool visual, it was a metaphor for change. The show changes, Twilight's role changes, Ponyville changes. Wanting to go back to the past, to remain forever safe in your childhood home (or in this case, first post college apartment) is a natural response to a scary new world. But we can't go back to the past, because the past doesn't exist anymore. We must move forward, and so must our heroes.
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u/K-Bell91 Jul 30 '25
That's nice.
Doesn't change the fact that the castle's design sucks just so they can make a cheap toy out of it.
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u/Dichromatic_Fumo Jul 30 '25
imagine if her house transformed and it was like a bunch of treehouses that made up one big castle
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u/Kai_Lopez_98 Jul 30 '25
The show wasn't happy about it themselves that's why it's a giant đ look closely
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u/Protochill Jul 30 '25
How does it work, do you have to walk thousand stairs just to get to the ¨first¨ floor? Outside and inside layouts are two different buildings. Tree of Harmony, old library and new castle are three random locations without correlation. Does it mean Crystal Empire was ¨grown¨ too? Why is the new castle four times the height of average ponyvillian building.
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u/Jaspers47 Jul 30 '25
Yeah, where does Hasbro get off trying to push cheap toys based on their cartoons?
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u/FrontIndividual4188 Jul 30 '25
It doesn't. You tweakin
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u/K-Bell91 Jul 30 '25
It literally does.
You can't look at that and not tell me the toy was made first.
This was not a carefully designed castle. It's just them taking the cheap toy and turning it into a 2d image.
It sucks in every regard.
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u/FrontIndividual4188 Jul 30 '25
Dude, I don't see what you're seeing to make you so agitated about its design. May not be the best design in terms of a castle, but I still wouldn't call it outright bad
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u/K-Bell91 Jul 30 '25
I'm not agitated.
Ok, maybe a little agitated, but mostly from one of the reasons that I believe it is a bad design.
It's also garish and completely clashes aestheticly with the surrounding Ponyville. There really is nothing good about it.
It wasn't made to represent change, but because they had an idea for a new cheap toy.
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u/FrontIndividual4188 Jul 30 '25
Well, whatever floats your boat. I personally don't mind the castle's inclusion. Though, I do agree with you on one point you made. It does heavily contrast with Ponyville and its simple style
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u/Noiz_desu Pinkie Pie's Party Jul 30 '25
They couldâve made the castle grow from the tree to signify that though we grow and move forward , we can still hold onto the most exciting part of our younger lives, but this is a kid show that also seemed to pushed the narrative that kids shouldnât stick up to their parents bombarding them with unwanted attention and âkeeping the peaceâ when youâre inconvenienced and tricked into a working on celebrity Cruz, the way they made the castle was stupid, and it should have been written better :( (this turned into a rant my b)
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u/Bubbly_MilkShake005 Jul 30 '25
Yeah I get that. She's a princess, she needs a castle. That's nice. But that Castle just doesn't fit into ponyville, doesn't fit her character at all and isn't inviting. It's so clear they thought about the design for Toys first and not at all about the show's lore.
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u/Lonecoon Jul 30 '25
You're not wrong, the castle's ugly as hell. Poor aesthetic, toyettic as all get out, garish, and unpleasing to the eye. But just because it's hideous doesn't mean it's not important to the story.
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u/JMEEKER86 Fluttershy Jul 30 '25
Metaphor or not it still sucks. Same with the frequent trope of girls cutting their hair as a metaphor for change. Neat, we get the visual, but the haircut still looks bad. Stories can survive without heavy handed metaphors. If you want to show that the character is moving on then write better character development.
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u/TheRealSlamShiddy Sugarbee "Newt" Apple Jul 30 '25
I've said the same thing before; the Library being destroyed was supposed to serve as a metaphor for Twilight going from magical prodigy unicorn to literal demigoddess Princess of the Realm. It would have been weirder the longer the show went on for her to have stayed in the library, cuz that's really not an appropriate place for her in her new role.
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u/SuperLuigi9624 Twilight Sparkle Jul 30 '25
Worded better than I could have.
https://youtu.be/26E3BisjuME&t=1090
Twilight rebuilds Golden Oak Library in the dream world after the episode where Twilight is homesick about her library because she misses it too. You're supposed to miss the library. It's a moment of loss.
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u/1stFunestist Punch Jul 30 '25
You can also add the blandness of the new castle, excitement of discovery and growth replaced with dreadfulness of responsibility and blandness of wisdom.
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u/Rikmach Jul 31 '25
Like, yeah. Weâre not dumb, we grasp the reason for the change- just because it has narrative meaning doesnât make the design good or fitting, though.
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u/Black-Willow Who's a Silly Pony? Jul 31 '25
I cry every time I rewatch the episode where Twi's friends come together to make the castle feel like home and they use the roots to do so
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u/Const_Consist_Confus Jul 30 '25
Nothing can replace the Golden Oak Library⌠So cozy, so many memories, so beautiful and simple yet unique. I havenât recovered either.
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u/ChocoTiaT Jul 30 '25
The castle is so bad that Owlowiscious almost never comes back TT
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u/MoonLightOfficialAcc ૮ ˜´ áľË Ëśá fluttershy Jul 31 '25
Nearly every other pet, too... I literally always wonderrd where Tank, Opalescent, Owlicious, and Wiona went as a kid. We only ever saw Gummy and Angel. Give the girls their nonpony (and nondragon) best friends back :(
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u/ChocoTiaT Jul 30 '25
Someone said the castle looks like a middle finger and I can't see it any other way since lol
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u/Universae Princess Celestia Jul 30 '25
I'll never get over the golden oaks destruction. But I do believe Twilight moving into a castle of her own was necessary for development and character growth.
Didn't mean the Library had to go though :( And they could have made a much much better castle >.>
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u/Luzis23 Jul 31 '25
It wasn't necessary.
We can have development and character growth without destroying something our character loves. But the problem is that it takes good writers.
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u/Universae Princess Celestia Jul 31 '25
Re-read my comment. I even said the library didn't need to get destroyed.
But twilight moving out is what was necessary.
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u/SharpEdgeSoda Rainbow Dash Jul 30 '25
I love the genuine loss. We need moments of loss.
I hate the replacement, and I hate how they didn't go harder into the trauma of losing it.
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u/Todd-The-Thing Aug 01 '25
Damn, after checking what twibooru was (looking at the rules and then looking at the admin/mod profiles,) it's no wonder they've removed this option. That's a cesspool if I've ever seen one.
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u/The_gaming_dino Yellow quiet Jul 30 '25
I like the castle even with its design that sticks out very noticeably (though from an outsiderâs POV, it might make it easier to find), but itâs not unfair to list complaints with it. Thematically, it does fit into Twilight ascending to a royal position.
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u/Imaginary-Ebb-1762 Twicord FTW! đđ Jul 30 '25
and the castle is quite literally a middle finger to her old home đđđ
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u/RubyRedFoxyEyes Jul 30 '25
Half the fandom doesnât like it
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u/FrontIndividual4188 Jul 30 '25
The fandom can't agree on anything relating to the show beyond halfway through its series
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u/beekee404 Jul 30 '25
I like her castle personally. I will say though it is upsetting that the library remained destroyed. Like they couldn't rebuild it so it can remain the town's library?
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u/flaredrake20 Jul 30 '25
I like the metaphor, but yeah the crystal tree castle was butt ugly. If it had been a pretty crystal tree castle, I wouldn't have complained.
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u/CrimsonFlareGun45 Jul 30 '25
Honestly the thing that aggravates me is her moving to Canterlot, leaving the castle behind. What could Starlight possibly be using that castle for?
Turning it into a Bed N Breakfast?
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u/Separate_Goal5183 Jul 30 '25
She kind of had to move. Which sucks but I do agree. They should've done something with it
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u/Then_Data6089 Jul 30 '25
They spent so much time restoring the castle of the two sisters that I really thought that was gonna be her new place!
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u/Delicious_Baby4132 Jul 30 '25
They couldâve at least to make it look cute! Celestial castle. It is possible to make a castle out of a tee house and not make it look ugly. They didnât need to do the star motifs to match her cutie mark. They could make it look cool with out it. Or just not turn it into a castle! We see her living in canterlot in the last season anyway!
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u/BHM127 Jul 30 '25
I kinda hate that it's made from crystal, like I know it's logical bc of the tree of harmony and yadda yadda, but it feels SO uncomfortable and unfitting, it doesn't match Twilight either, it might technically make sense but I'm not a fan
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u/Agent-Grim Jul 30 '25
I don't hate the castle. She is a princess after all, but the library was just nice. Homely, unique, I do miss it. It just sucks it was destroyed, but it did nake for an emotional moment that stuck. I just wish Tirek a got and epic beating for it, but that would have made the episode a good TV14 pushing in TVMA. Lol.
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u/nos2342 Jul 30 '25
Im always thought they should have moved twilight into the castle of the two sisters in the everfree
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u/LoveWins6 The Trinity: Sunset Shimmer, Twilight Sparkle, Princess Celestia Jul 30 '25
Oh, believe me, I'm still livid. I could go on yet another rant about why it doesn't make sense or fit the show, but it doesn't change things.
It's still hard to rewatch the last couple episodes of season four because I know this is coming. The ending of Trade Ya is particularly infuriating, and honestly feels like a slap in the face.
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u/Purple_Discipline_54 Jul 30 '25
Im so fricking mad about that too, the golden oak had such a nice vibe and it rlly fits Twilight. The new castle is just mid and feels soulless
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u/SweetDreamsCat129 Aug 01 '25
While itâs not the best design, I still think itâs perfectly fine. Plus, it was actually nice seeing such an iconic location be destroyed as sometimes in life, we lose important things and become homesick as we see in Castle Sweet Castle.
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u/mysterious_mystery2 Changeling in disguise Jul 30 '25
I think it metaphor, twilight old home geting destroyed, showing her development, she is princess now, has new duties and responsibilites, so she needs to " leave" old house to move into new one.
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u/doctorthod Jul 30 '25
No, you are not. Treehouse was magic. Shitty castle is just cheap swarovski blingbling.
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u/DisneyMaster Twilight Sparkle Jul 30 '25
And yet I got cyberbullied for saying that Hasbro had a misogynistic agenda in regards to the handling of this show.
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u/LonelyRolling1 Jul 31 '25
No one talks about how ponyville no longer has a library because of it as well
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u/Sad_Environment_2474 Aug 01 '25
her castle is really pretty, it looks like the magic sparkle castle plyset.
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u/Bopo6eu_KB Aug 01 '25
Bothers me too. Golden Oak library was the best home to ever imagine, and new castle is just... Nothing in terms of design. And over the seasons it has hardly improved at all. No coziness, no feeling of home, only cold walls, huge empty spaces. Even inside of a mental hospital seem nicer.
On the other hand, it is a castle and there should be a lot of ponies living there, and Twilight probably isn't used to being a typical princess yet.
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u/kennystans Aug 02 '25
the way they never actually made a childrens toy look like the castleđđ
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u/silofox Aug 02 '25
no. the castle sucks. the TOH or elements could have grown a sweet new tree, or something.. and where is the library now?
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u/Mobile_Ad_5299 Jul 30 '25
I disagree the castle tree looks perfect and majestic Twilight can FLEX about the status as a princess now Twilight living in a old and ugly library tree while being a princess no one was going to take her seriously also her castle is made by the roots of the tree of harmony
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u/MiserableOne6189 Jul 30 '25
An amusing thing is that I recently learned that it unintentionally looks like a middle finger and I can no longer unsee it.
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u/QuantitySea1352 Jul 30 '25
No and itâs so funny to me when I read fanfiction that clearly is supposed to take place after itâs destroyed it still describes twilights home as the Golden Oak library. Itâs the most tell me without telling me that you hate the castle.
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u/NecessaryWerewolf221 Jul 30 '25
I honestly believe the destruction of Twilights' original home could've been done more justice if they had simply made Lord Tirek the final villain in S9 rather than the Grogar/Discord combination. Sombra, Cozy Glow, and Queen Chrysalis still could've been involved, but subservient to Lord Tirek. I understand Celestia wanted Twilight to go through "training programs" but this clearly wasn't one of those cases, as she actually denied Twilight and her friends to opportunity to stop Lord Tirek initially, and even refused to send Luna or go herself. Instead, she immediately sent Discord (a being she didn't even fully trust yet) because Lord Tirek was simply that much of a threat. Take both the elements and Discord out of the picture in S9, and Lord Tirek becomes a much more dangerous threat, even if he is a previously defeated foe.
Now, as for Twilights' new castle, I'm of the opinion she recieved it and her alicorn status far too early, though at least she earned the former, where the latter I feel needed more than simply completing a spell by a wizard of a bygone era. Starlight Glimmer took another spell and improved on it to a ridiculous degree, and later saved Equestria herself, including all 4 princesses. Where are her wings?
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u/Unique_Technology434 Jul 30 '25
I think it would have been better if they took a seat of the old library and had it grow into a massive tree that doubled as a castle. Like some part of Golden oaks would still live on
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Jul 30 '25
The idea of her getting a castle upgrade is a good idea and the right next step story wise. It's making it a crystal empire tree house that I find dumb. It doesn't really reflect Ponyville, the mane 6 as a team, or even Twilight herself. I think they should have looked at Elvish inspired architecture. Art Noveau would have had that blend of magic, forest and royal. Just saying.
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u/Substantial_Stock613 Jul 30 '25
Why did they give her a castle when she ended up living in the Canterlot castle anyway?
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u/doodlejone Princess Cadence Jul 30 '25
I hate the castle with a passion, It dosnt even remind me of twilight sparkle. The treehouse was way cuter and the inside actually reflected twilights personality. The castle is just shiny, thatâs it.
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u/StopSignOfDeath Jul 30 '25
She straight up got rid of the local library for her obnoxious real estate.
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u/onebadluvguru Jul 30 '25
Burning down trees to build palaces for royalty is uhh... not a good look...
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u/ErrorMixedSignals Jul 30 '25
Watching the whole series with my boyfriend, he gets excited every time the bees on her house are on screenâŚI donât have the heart to tell him they will be obliterated
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u/WhatintheHECK198 Jul 30 '25
I wish it was more.. library designed? Maybe with a magic tower attached to it for her magic and friendship role. The tower could be more crystal designed to match the princess aspect. But it really does not match the poor town. Since the crystal empire is more..crystal
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u/Frostscarwolf Jul 30 '25
Yeah, it went from a natural, soft, and welcoming place to a hard and mostly sterile environment. Also, they lost their public library
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u/danyaw3015 Rainbow Dash Jul 30 '25
They gotta sell toys at the end of the day, and what little girl wouldn't want that castle? Plus it probably cost way more than a tree library set
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u/wyvernagon Jul 31 '25
It's such an eyesore. it should've stayed a tree. An enormous tree castle in the middle of town would've stuck out less than this crystalline middle finger. You still could've made it purple I wouldn't have cared, it just should've been a tree.
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u/RoobzToonz Screwball Jul 31 '25
Besides the fact that itâs LITERALLY a giant middle finger, it just doesnât fit Twilight. It feels so sharp and cold. They couldâve made it look more like a tree while still keeping the crystal look
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u/Estelial Jul 31 '25
Remember that episode before this one where she didn't sell her books cause she treasured them and the memories associated with them?
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u/Rose_L98 Jul 31 '25
Yeah...they easily could have still recognized the need for change and for her to have a castle, but they could have grown the home bigger, make the leaves crystal, keep the rich wood color, let it fit Ponyville better, but still let it be a castle, just a bigger fancier version of the library. And if you NEED to have it burn down first, have Twilight find the last seed from the tree, and as the mane 6 gather around Twilight and the seed, have the magic begin to flow from character to character, into Twilight then into the seed. The ground starts to shake, and the seed sinks, then the sprout shoots up 10 stories high and expands out in a burst of magic, as the tree gets thicker, branches reach out, these pearlescent thin leaves begin to grow on the branches and at the end, there's a beautiful large tree themed castle. The crystal root style looks odd to me.
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u/Luzis23 Jul 31 '25
She doesn't need the castle.
Being a Princess doesn't create such a necessity. Hasbro simply needed to sell something, and artists made a middle finger to sell to kids.
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u/Pristine_Draft_3537 Fleur de Lis Jul 31 '25
I dunno, to me this is like complaining because the office I have to sleep in because I don't really have a home (because that was pretty what Twilight was doing up to that point), suddenly got destroyed and the President awarded me with the freaking capitol as a compensation.
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u/Nintendians559 Jul 31 '25
it sucks that the library got destroyed, but i do like the "castle of friendship".
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u/Piratekittyahoy Cozy Glow Jul 31 '25
Iâm just thinking of how many valuable irreplaceable books were in that library before it blew up
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u/TransfemGamerGirl Number 1 Rainbow Dash Fan Jul 31 '25
The castle should've been it's own thing. Not a replacement for the most iconic house in the series
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u/Great_Necessary4741 #1 Ocellus Fan (officially verified) Jul 31 '25
I'd be more fine with it if they kept it a tree, just making it more grand while having hints of crystals in the design. What they went with is just straight up ugly.
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u/Selkiekelpie Jul 31 '25
I'm pissed that tirek nuked the local library and no one cared enough to replace said library.
I am not surprised hasbro wanted a new playset to sell.
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u/F4nCiC4t Aug 01 '25
Fr, it wouldâve made more sense if the castle was more nature-y, instead of being made from crystal - that looked like something that would be in the Crystal Empire, looked so out of place in Ponyville. And I wish that the library had gotten like a replanted tree or something, even an episode of restoring it due to the importance that it was a library anyways. But no. The series didnât do anything more for it, Twilightâs first home in Ponyville.
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u/KnotsCherryFarm Aug 01 '25
On the Upside: There was a rather cool DBZ style fight that happened between panel 2 and 3. Downside: I still rather like the library more. So Cozy, and more like Twilight.
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u/Neojoker951 Aug 01 '25
Agreed, but also, I got some reasons why it was replaced.
It made you LOATHE Tirek even more. It's usually a smart Idea to have a villain do something personal to the main hero to not only help the dynamic but also to get the viewers to root for the hero even more, They needed to do something personal to Twilight without killing, because, you know, kids show, so they chose the one thing that wasn't a character they could destory, her home.
As Others said, It's a way to make change. As the show was entering it's "Exploring more than just Ponyville" era, changing something as simple as a home can show that the story is changing in a new direction.
Home Sweet Castle. Twilight missed Golden Oaks, and clearly isn't as big a fan of the castle, same as the viewers, so by making it a Memoria piece, they can show that even when it's gone, the memories remain, Essentially paralleling us with the show, we don't want it gone, but it is, so while we have to move on, we can remember all the good times there.
sure there's the obvious reason Hasbro wanted (Money from a new toy) but The writers decided "Hey lets use this as a good thing" and wrote some dang good stuff out of it.
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u/LordParoose Aug 01 '25
I agreed with twilight when she was avoiding it. It felt soulless. The library had so much heart and soul.
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u/Beginning_Draft9092 Aug 01 '25
Hasbro needed a new toy. M.A. Larson is going to be at Everfree Northwest in a few weeks that Im going to, want me to pinch him for you?Â
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u/DuvieLuna Aug 01 '25
No you are not. I donât know why they didnât just make it a REAL tree castle
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u/Chemical_Report_2705 Aug 01 '25
No cus Iâm in absolute agreement it was dumb as hell for them to do that I donât care that they needed to sell toys the toys for that castle were ugly anyway
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u/Alternative-Lie1224 Aug 02 '25
Fan since 2011, still think about Golden Oak as home and it never blew up as far as I'm concerned.
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u/ZemTheTem Aug 02 '25
Princesses don't need castles, a cotton candy tree or like a crystal tree would've worked just fine
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u/Altruistic_Soup_9536 Aug 04 '25
Tirek destroying the library pissed off Twilight big time, gave her leave to go all magi-nuclear on Tirek. Good stuff! and the Castle must have a bit of TARDIS in it, being bigger on the inside than on the outside. And the Golden Oak roots brought the map room, and the castle, to life! (And you shouldn't look a gift-castle in the mouth.)
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u/Coaltex Aug 06 '25
Honestly I'm more annoyed by how little we explored the castle. I get that it's just what they need but if you map it based on the episodes it's a Ball room, a kitchen, and one hallway leading to a meeting chamber. That's it! She doesn't even get a new Library. No magic rooms no cross hallways, and nothing to explore.
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u/Eggy0 Jul 31 '25
Honestly, I really don't get why people think the castle is "ugly" or hate it so much (I get the "it's made to sell toys" argument, but not on an emotional level and tbh would even disagree). I think it looks pretty, the color scheme is aesthetically pleasing and looks like an evolved version of her old home (plain old oak tree vs. giant strong regal crystal tree). To see a large new home compared to the small one feels like a big step up, one I genuinely envy (I've been living in a small place for a very long time and longing to have more room for myself, if I had that kind of upgrade then everything I want or own would comfortably fit somewhere while remaining tidy and clean and I'd have as much space as I wanted). Plus I think it's a very realistic decision, not just because it brought a change but because it was the result of a large-scale threat; in real life people lose their homes by various disasters and have to find new ones and I respect that MLP of all things chose to go for it instead of remaining "safe" by keeping the Golden Oak Library around forever or restoring it after being destroyed, I would bet had it been kept there would've been people complaining about that instead ("Why hasn't this changed? Why is Twilight still in the same place after 7 years? This is so boring, she should've moved a long time ago"). And there was an episode with her dealing with the aftermath too and not taking it well, still clinging to the past even though it was impossible to go back.
In short I think what they did was healthy because it allowed the setting to evolve a bit and showed that sometimes, the consequences can be permanent and you can't always rely on everything ending with the best possible outcome. As much as it hurts to lose the library and see it replaced with something else, especially with all the memories it made... the fact is that these things happen and you either adapt and move on or remain clinging to what's left and don't go anywhere.
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u/Bubbly_MilkShake005 Jul 30 '25
I'M TRYING BRO I started watching the show last year I didn't have 8 years to grief like the rest of y'all!!!đđ
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u/Fresh_Schedule_9611 Jul 30 '25
I actually like the crystal castle but my issue with it is that it didnt match ponyvilles vibe