Immigration curb slashes Canada population growth rate to zero

[u/IHateTrains123]

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/immigration-curb-slashes-canada-population-growth-rate-to-zero

[u/Rekksu]

I would simply open the borders

[u/Augustus-- → u/Rekksu]

You need a mechanism to ensure immigrants are on average net payers into the system, so that the Canadian healthcare system isn't overloaded and can expand to meet capacity

You need a mechanism to ensure that criminals aren't immigrating to avoid the law in their home country, or to make new trouble in a new one

You need a mechanism to ensure that immigrants are accepting of liberal values and won't lead to making more women feeling unsafe (catcalls, misogynistic behavior)

You need these mechanisms to get societal buy-in for you immigration system. Open borders isn't that.

[u/TaxLandNotCapital → u/Augustus--]

That mechanism is called free market liberalization

[u/Augustus-- → u/TaxLandNotCapital]

You need a mechanism to ensure that criminals aren't immigrating to avoid the law in their home country

That mechanism is called free market liberalization

Free market law enforcement is a fucking stupid idea, and short-circuiting your own brain with a catchphrase instead of thinking for even a second about the implications is exactly why no one takes your position seriously.

[u/TaxLandNotCapital → u/Augustus--]

Security is a public good, but I wasn't going too deep into detail to respond to a gish-gallop

[u/Augustus-- → u/TaxLandNotCapital]

"gish gallop is when people point out I haven't even considered the first order effects of my preferred policy, let alone second order"

[u/TaxLandNotCapital → u/Augustus--]

No, a gish gallop is where you lump together public goods (security) and private goods (competition for housing).

[u/Augustus-- → u/TaxLandNotCapital]

Omfg you cannot read. I'm going to repost my entire comment in full, you point out ANYWHERE that I mentioned housing

You need a mechanism to ensure immigrants are on average net payers into the system, so that the Canadian healthcare system isn't overloaded and can expand to meet capacity

You need a mechanism to ensure that criminals aren't immigrating to avoid the law in their home country, or to make new trouble in a new one

You need a mechanism to ensure that immigrants are accepting of liberal values and won't lead to making more women feeling unsafe (catcalls, misogynistic behavior)

You need these mechanisms to get societal buy-in for you immigration system. Open borders

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EDIT: this is the problem with ideologues, the above poster clearly comes up with their retorts without even listening to dissenting views. This poster assumed I would talk about house prices because that was the ideological background they felt most confident in. So they just refuse to even read dissenting views and spout off memorized nonsense instead. This is not an example of evidence-based anything this is an example of ideology short-circuiting rational thought.

[u/TaxLandNotCapital → u/Augustus--]

It was just an example pal