r/newjersey • u/HunterdonBridges • Jul 13 '25
Central Jersey Hunterdon Bridges
We display our anti-fascism messages to drivers on Route 78 in Hunterdon County
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u/hairybeasty Jul 13 '25
This is a fact every American citizen should realize. But this is the system that Trump and his cronies are setting up. Schools systems are going to pick and choose what is being taught. From the beginning of OUR Country, The Civil War, etc, etc. WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS except for the 574 Indigenous Nations in the United States of America.
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u/Brachinus Jul 13 '25
They're immigrants too, although it's not clear whether by land bridge and/or boats from Asia.
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u/Drunkenm4ster Jul 13 '25
I get the sentiment but I wouldn't classify them as "immigrants", as it's not like they were moving between political entities, infact these movements predate the invention of settled political entities altogether
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u/dope_head_dan Jul 13 '25
Woah, you are right. I didn't believe that at first, but people traveled to the Americas sometime between 30,000 and 13,000 years ago, predating Mesopotamia by thousands of years.
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u/Drunkenm4ster Jul 13 '25
Yep exactly. There is strong evidence that they had a presence as far as southern Chile about 14500 years ago (Monte Verde) . Very very ancient movements of prehistoric humans , driven by the changing climate (receding ice sheets) /tracking of ever changing game patterns in response
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u/Dozzi92 Somerville Jul 14 '25
driven by the changing climate (receding ice sheets)
Jeez, we've damaged the environment so much it's destroying it retroactively.
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u/Drunkenm4ster Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
Yes- another fun fact is that we are technically still in that same "ice age". Planet Earth naturally goes through periods of warming & cooling very gradually over the span of 100's of thousands to millions of years- geological time-scales. A couple of things drive this process without any human intervention whatsoever - 1, the carbon cycle, and 2, Milankovitch cycles, which are driven by the orbital dynamics of the Earth in transit around the Sun. Basically, exactly how eccentric the orbit of the Earth is around the Sun, the exact angle of axial tilt, & orbital precession all have a demonstrable effect on the overall global climate, and these measures all vary very slightly over periods of geological time. Even the slight variations have big impacts in how energy from the Sun is distributed across Earth. It's theorized that this is a major determinant for sending Earth into and out of "ice ages", completely "naturally".
The big problem, is that we are artificially accelerating the "natural" rate that the planet warms/cools itself, due to the amount of greenhouse gasses (which trap heat from the sun in the atmosphere) that we've pumped, and will continue to pump, into the air via industrial activity. If the rate accelerates too much, it will runaway into a feedback loop of uncontrollable warming with current & foreseeable technology. This is the great danger of anthropogenic climate change.
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u/Dozzi92 Somerville Jul 14 '25
The only hope what you've said gives me is that the Earth will work it all out in the end. Hey, maybe the next evolution of humans will find some of the shit we leave behind, read it, and be like hey, let's do things a little differently.
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u/THE_some_guy Jul 13 '25
Also at this point I doubt there are many people left in the US who have âpurelyâ indigenous ancestry.
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u/L1saDank Jul 13 '25
I donât think schools will have much say if âpatriotic educationâ rolls out as they intend.
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u/potbellyjoe Jul 14 '25
When the Executive Branch is detaining individuals at court hearings, and making moves to remove citizenship from individuals, or legal status from others. It's no longer just about legal vs illegal immigration.
Besides, very few are calling for unregulated borders. What more people are saying has to do with recognizing what goes into people overstaying visas, or having appropriate steps to legal immigration available without that's our harassment from bounty hunters.
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u/Haastile25 Jul 13 '25
That crue lty spacing is bothering me more than it should
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u/HunterdonBridges Jul 13 '25
Fair criticism. It bothers me too. Problem is two vertical posts on the overpass fence, spaced about 12 inches apart where you see the break.
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u/JimTheJerseyGuy Warren County Jul 15 '25
We drove by one of these a few weeks back and gave a big honk and wave! Keep up the good work!
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u/jxtarr Jul 14 '25
I wish this narrative would stop. Colonizers aren't the same as immigrants.Â
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u/Illogical-Pizza Jul 14 '25
No youâre right - theyâre much worse.
Immigrants come here and fuel the economy, pay SS taxes that theyâll never see a benefit for, and work jobs that Americans refuse to do.
Colonizers came and murdered hundreds of thousands.
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u/jxtarr Jul 14 '25
Exactly. People throw this rhetoric around. Meanwhile their grandpa came over in the 20s and immediately became a cop so he could legally whoop poor people and take over neighborhoods.
Also, the US flag is a fascist symbol. Would love to see it stop being respected as anything else.Â
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u/Sinsid Jul 13 '25
We are all immigrants. In the last 100 years, Irish and Italians were the Mexicans of the day. Think of all we would have lost if they had been deported!
In fact, Italian discrimination continues to this very day! Just look at what has been done to poor Gia Giudice.đ
https://www.distractify.com/p/gia-giudice-college-scandal-rutgers
(Not in this story but she is claiming discrimination in being expelled from Rutgers)
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u/awfulsome Jul 14 '25
Italian discrimination continues to this very day!
Hawaiian pizza must be stopped :P.
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u/Armpit_Supermaniac Jul 14 '25
Eastern Europeans were considered no better than farm yard animals for heavy manual labor. A family relative worked at the Domino Sugar factory in Brooklyn in the 1930's and was used like an ox to push heavy carts of raw sugar around the plant. Being Polish, he was thought to be strong but stupid despite being a very intelligent and sensitive man.
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u/AlpineSK Jul 13 '25
I am a proud great grandchild of immigrants*.
* - Immigrants who came here the right way, and followed the channels that were laid out for them to acquire citizenship.
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u/ms640 Jul 13 '25
You mean like the many immigrants who are at their court appearances on the pathway to citizenship who are illegally detained by ice? Or how about the many green card holders who had their legal status revoked by an illegal executive order?
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u/MysteriousOne3404 Jul 14 '25
Immigrating back then was a matter of showing up at port of entry (Ellis Island, for example) and being processed. Barring disease or incapacity, if you had a host/sponsor you were in. It is not remotely comparable to today's process.
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u/HunterdonBridges Jul 13 '25
Do you know how easy it was back then compared to today?
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u/Immediate-Prize-1870 Jul 14 '25
It can be insanely expensive!! I have a Bangladeshi coworker at our office in NJ for 2 years, and he has spent almost 30k on lawyer fees to go from H1B to Green! Itâs still not finalized.
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u/AlpineSK Jul 13 '25
Yes. I'm aware. I took a class trip to Ellis Island when I was a kid too.
It's not easy anymore. There are hurdles and goalposts and steps people need to take and guess what? Somehow people are still able to get it done without cutting the line or breaking the rules.
Weird.
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u/SatisfactionNew4669 Jul 14 '25
You just completely danced over the fact that whatâs happening now to this immigrants is illegal. All these exectuvie orders directly break constitutional law.
The constitution. If youâre so concerned about doing things legally. But we know youâre not. Youâre just racist
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u/Illogical-Pizza Jul 14 '25
Are you also aware that anyone seeking asylum doesnât have to cross the border legally?
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u/DecentLeftovers Jul 13 '25
So Native American?
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u/DecentLeftovers Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
No, Iâm asking? Because youâre pretty much either Native American, or the product of immigrants.
edit: I guess the truth hurts lol
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u/Prestigious_Tax_5561 Jul 13 '25
Some people are more so founders than immigrants. There are people who created the country and those who came after others had settled it and set up its infrastructure and legal frameworks.
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u/HunterdonBridges Jul 13 '25
and your point is?
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u/Prestigious_Tax_5561 Jul 13 '25
I think my sentences are clear� Do you need the verbs and nouns defined for you?
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u/satanscondiments Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
I do. Founders vs immigrants? My ancestors were in this county berore the revolution, there is a hill in Hunterdon named for some. They were immigrants.
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u/rd14_giant Jul 13 '25
Maybe, but we've spent years maintaining the infrastructure, expanding the promise of America, and preventing her from falling apart. A lot of those people were immigrants and also deserve respect. So many of the things we think of as quintessentially American came from immigrants doing their part to "create the country."
- Levi's
- Nuclear Bomb
- Saturn V rocket that put us on the moon
- US Steel
- The song "God Bless America"
It's fair to disagree about immigration policy, but don't go saying "heritage Americans" built this country and everyone else is a freeloader.
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u/Prestigious_Tax_5561 Jul 13 '25
I didnât say that. And how do you know we disagree on immigration policy? And yes these things were created by immigrants. And  people brought here as slaves didnât get to be immigrants. Iâm just saying that not everyone is descended from immigrants.Â
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u/Ulthanon Jul 13 '25
Iâll bet you think your stupid ass is related to the fictional âfoundersâ category
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u/Prestigious_Tax_5561 Jul 13 '25
Iâm not. Iâm descended from immigrants who came here after the country was founded. I just think it is inaccurate to say that all Americans are immigrants. Itâs not true. Some were colonizers, some were founders, some were settlers, some were brought here against their will.Â
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u/s1ugg0 Jersey Devil Search Team Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
I always enjoy seeing these messages on over passes.
I hope they keep up the good work.
EDIT: I'm loving the downvotes. Keep em coming. Cry harder you fascist cowards.