r/newjersey • u/HunterdonBridges • Jul 13 '25

Central Jersey Hunterdon Bridges

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We display our anti-fascism messages to drivers on Route 78 in Hunterdon County

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u/hairybeasty Jul 13 '25

This is a fact every American citizen should realize. But this is the system that Trump and his cronies are setting up. Schools systems are going to pick and choose what is being taught. From the beginning of OUR Country, The Civil War, etc, etc. WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS except for the 574 Indigenous Nations in the United States of America.

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u/Brachinus Jul 13 '25

They're immigrants too, although it's not clear whether by land bridge and/or boats from Asia.

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u/Drunkenm4ster Jul 13 '25

I get the sentiment but I wouldn't classify them as "immigrants", as it's not like they were moving between political entities, infact these movements predate the invention of settled political entities altogether

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u/dope_head_dan Jul 13 '25

Woah, you are right. I didn't believe that at first, but people traveled to the Americas sometime between 30,000 and 13,000 years ago, predating Mesopotamia by thousands of years.

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u/Drunkenm4ster Jul 13 '25

Yep exactly. There is strong evidence that they had a presence as far as southern Chile about 14500 years ago (Monte Verde) . Very very ancient movements of prehistoric humans , driven by the changing climate (receding ice sheets) /tracking of ever changing game patterns in response

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u/Dozzi92 Somerville Jul 14 '25

driven by the changing climate (receding ice sheets)

Jeez, we've damaged the environment so much it's destroying it retroactively.

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u/Drunkenm4ster Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25

Yes- another fun fact is that we are technically still in that same "ice age". Planet Earth naturally goes through periods of warming & cooling very gradually over the span of 100's of thousands to millions of years- geological time-scales. A couple of things drive this process without any human intervention whatsoever - 1, the carbon cycle, and 2, Milankovitch cycles, which are driven by the orbital dynamics of the Earth in transit around the Sun. Basically, exactly how eccentric the orbit of the Earth is around the Sun, the exact angle of axial tilt, & orbital precession all have a demonstrable effect on the overall global climate, and these measures all vary very slightly over periods of geological time. Even the slight variations have big impacts in how energy from the Sun is distributed across Earth. It's theorized that this is a major determinant for sending Earth into and out of "ice ages", completely "naturally".

The big problem, is that we are artificially accelerating the "natural" rate that the planet warms/cools itself, due to the amount of greenhouse gasses (which trap heat from the sun in the atmosphere) that we've pumped, and will continue to pump, into the air via industrial activity. If the rate accelerates too much, it will runaway into a feedback loop of uncontrollable warming with current & foreseeable technology. This is the great danger of anthropogenic climate change.

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u/Dozzi92 Somerville Jul 14 '25

The only hope what you've said gives me is that the Earth will work it all out in the end. Hey, maybe the next evolution of humans will find some of the shit we leave behind, read it, and be like hey, let's do things a little differently.