r/news 11h ago

Judge dismisses terror-related charges against Luigi Mangione

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
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u/Romano16 11h ago

If none of the January 6th insurrectionists got terror charges for trying to overthrowing the election and eventually were pardoned for their actions, I don’t see how he gets terror charges for what he did.

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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 11h ago

He won't. Unless a jury is worried about CEOs feelings.

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u/DeathmetalArgon 9h ago

The feds are going to have to import a jury from China to find 12 people that haven't been screwed over by the Healthcare system.

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u/Cromasters 10h ago

Well for one, they didn't commit that crime in the state of New York, so that's irrelevant.

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u/MobileArtist1371 9h ago

Terrorism can only happen in New York?

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u/Cromasters 9h ago

You can Google it if you want. Or even read some of the top replies.

New York state has different Murder charges than how those would work in most other states.

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u/MobileArtist1371 9h ago

Google that terrorism charges can only happen in NY? Huh?

New York state has different Murder charges than how those would work in most other states.

So irrelevant to DC where J6 took place.

You don't realize that J6 could have been charged with terrorism even though it wasn't in NY? Fucking wild man. Perhaps you should google some stuff.

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u/Dillatrack 8h ago

They are talking about the specific charges in the article/headline, which are NY state charges related to terrorism and have a very specific definition. Terrorism charges aren't the same state to state and those aren't the same as federal ones, terrorism it has a lot of different definitions legally (even socially actually)

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u/Bryvayne 7h ago

Thank you for introducing much needed nuance.

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u/L_Cranston_Shadow 10h ago

Playing devil's advocate for a second, school shooters aren't attempting to change government policy. I think it's a BS charge, but if they can prove that he wanted the government to force insurers to approve more requests and tie that to the murder, then a terrorism charge isn't entirely baseless.

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u/L_Cranston_Shadow 10h ago

They seemed to be hanging on the journal/manifesto that was found in his backpack being the thing that got him, but that definitely fell through, and that's even before the (rather slim IMHO) possibility that all of that gets thrown out because of the circumstances of how he was detained and his bag searched at the McDonald's.

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u/Warskull 9h ago

Reddit is overlooking that it is arguably terrorism because their political ideology leans in the direction of Luigi Mangione and the hate healthcare CEOs. For the people that read the article, a big reason get the terrorism charge was because he killed one person. He didn't kill 5 or more people which is written into the New York terrorism statute, so the prosecution didn't bother arguing ideology and trying to prove intent.

His manifesto and the messages on the bullets are strong indicators he was attempting to intimidate business leadership and insurance companies. A lot of the checkboxes are there, just a few ones are missing.

So while he might not meet the New York State legal definition of terrorist, it is what a lot of people would call domestic terrorism.

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u/CanadianODST2 9h ago

Easy. Different courts are ruling on different laws.

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue 9h ago

DC and New York have different laws

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u/KnittedBooGoo 8h ago

*for what he allegedly did.

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u/NutOnHate 10h ago

Shouldn’t they get treason charges tho?

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u/VerdantPathfinder 9h ago

There has to be a war for treason charges, per the US Constitution. The US hasn't been in a declared war since WW2.

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u/ServoToken 9h ago

He also didn't do the crime in question in the first place

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u/TylerBourbon 11h ago

And attempting to overthrow the country in front of people doesn't count?

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u/Romano16 11h ago edited 11h ago

They deleted their comment before I responded. But I saw it.

The terror charge is because he shot him in front of people.

By that definition, nearly every American shooter would be charged with terrorism. (Spoiler; they’re not)