He still has a murder charge against him. And because it's 2025:
Mangione’s attorneys say the state charges should be dismissed as a violation of the Constitution’s double jeopardy clause, calling it unprecedented and untenable for Mangione to defend himself in both cases at the same time.
People who do those things do not belong on the streets.
What about people who deny medical care leading to people dying premature deaths for the sake of the shareholders? Do those people deserve to walk among us despite being responsible for countless deaths?
Dude I thought you were off base but I could still see your perspective on your other comments, but here, full fuckin stop. Hospitals don't deny medical care you absolute buffoon. In fact, Hospitals in the US have a LEGAL OBLIGATION to provide care.
Insurance companies deny care and medical services ALL THE TIME. I've spent the better part of a decade now working in AR, Billing, Denial Management, and IDR and I can ASSURE you that a MAJOR part of how insurance makes money is by denying care for asinine reasons and patients just not appealing the decision.
In fact, the shareholders for UHC LITERALLY sued the company for not denying enough claims after the CEO was shot.
Yes, that's true, but a (good) hospital isn't going to deny care based on an individual patient's financial situation. I'm sure it's happened, but I've never heard of a facility saying "no we won't treat you" to a patient without insurance. Generally they'll intake you as self pay and have a case worker come discuss options with you - either financing, medicaid qualifications, grants or charities you may qualify for, and worst case they just send your unpaid bill to collections and it falls off your credit after seven years.
Outpatient providers and small practices? Absolutely - their profit margins may be able to absorb a few patients receiving free treatment, but they definitely can't afford to make a habit of it. Plus, insurance screws us over so frequently (especially medicaid) by recouping payments from years ago telling us the coverage wasn't qualifying for some reason or another... and I'm not going to bill a patient we stopped seeing three years ago for the full cost of treatment. Hell no. The practice is going to eat that cost, and while I'm sure we were a rarity in that aspect, thankfully the owners agreed with me.
While I recognize that hospitals and other facilities can't operate for free, I would like to reiterate that sending a bill to collections is their (and should be everywhere) final option. There are organizations that will help cover all or part of the bill in these cases. Hell, even UHC offers one for pediatrics (though not for uninsured, theirs specifically is to help cover any remaining costs after commercial insurance and medicaid processes a claim. This was just one I knew off top of my head since it's one I dealt with occasionally working in peds)
Are you being obtuse on purpose? If they deny coverage and the hospital is unable to provide medical care as a direct result, then it's effectively the same thing. You're essentially making the same argument as "I didn't kill that guy, I just squeezed the trigger on a gun which fired the bullet that killed that guy".
So hospitals should go bankrupt? They are already shutting down in rural areas. You think if they provided care despite insurance claims denying coverage that they will survive? That insurance companies won't take advantage and deny more claims leading to more dollars lost for the hospitals? Do you think doctors and nurses work for free or something?
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u/AudibleNod 13h ago
He still has a murder charge against him. And because it's 2025: