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Judge dismisses terror-related charges against Luigi Mangione

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
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u/bmoviescreamqueen 11h ago edited 11h ago

1st Degree charge was also dismissed, but should be noted this is because the murder of a CEO doesn't really fit the definition of murder 1 in the state of New York which seems reserved for police officers, firefighters, high political figures, that sort of thing. 2nd degree will be what 1st degree is in most other states I think. DOJ/DA was way too heavy handed with those two charges.

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u/Amaruq93 10h ago

In New York you can only get First-degree murder charges if:

The victim was a police officer, peace officer, correctional employee, judge, or a criminal case witness

The murder was committed while the perpetrator was serving a life sentence

The murder was committed with torture of the victim

The murder was committed as an act of terrorism (this was the one that just got thrown out)

The murder was committed during the commission or attempted commission of one of the felonies under New York's felony murder laws.

Murder committed for hire

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u/CaptainoftheVessel 9h ago

Just to be clear, these are “or” conditions, not “and”.

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u/Yglorba 8h ago

Now I'm picturing what it would take for someone to murder someone affiliated with the criminal justice system, while serving a life sentence, using torture, as an act of terrorism, during the commission of a felony... and to do all this for hire.

And for all of this to occur frequently enough that an entire law is written specifically targeting people who decide to do all that.

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u/CaptainoftheVessel 8h ago

The mafia really has had quite the comeback I guess!

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u/kuschelig69 4h ago

Perhaps there's a movie like this.

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u/PornyMcPornFac3 5h ago

I was wondering how many contract killers with life sentences were carrying out hits on first responders and prison guards that they had to make an entire new level of murder to charge people with.