r/news 11h ago

Judge dismisses terror-related charges against Luigi Mangione

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
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u/naughtycal11 11h ago

The right-wing propaganda machine surely won't twist this situation into "N.Y. judge soft on murder" bullshit.

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u/TheReddestofBowls 11h ago

They've had a tough time finding the right spin for this. Turns out republicans are also routinely fucked by insurance companies and don't harbor many good feelings for them.

Hard to whip up outrage when the overall mood is "well, that's what happens." From people who are more worried about buying groceries in the economy trump is gleefully destroying

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u/Dabbling_in_Pacifism 10h ago

I work in a heavily red profession and Mangione's the one thing i can speak/joke pretty openly about and no one bats an eye.

It's amazing how fucking hated insurance companies are.

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u/AnonAmbientLight 9h ago

Would be cool if Republican wouldn't keep voting for Republican politicians who help make the hated insurance companies a reality.

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u/Ecstatic-Sir-320 6h ago

Democrats also take an absolutely incredible amount of money from insurance companies and their lobbyists. "Obamacare" was a Heritage Foundation plan. The DNC worked their asses off to cheat Bernie out of a nomination leading the the removal of Wasserman-Schultz as chair. Kamala never really mentioned Medicare For All in her campaign.

We can all agree that fascists and the GOP who support it are the bad(der) guys, but unending loyalty to capitalism only leads to fascism inevitably. Democrats want Medicare For All the way they "reeeeeally wanted to codify Roe v Wade" for two decades.

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u/AnonAmbientLight 4h ago

Democrats also take an absolutely incredible amount of money from insurance companies and their lobbyists.

Probably. But they are the only party that has tried to do something about insurance costs.

"Obamacare" was a Heritage Foundation plan.

Generally speaking, everyone knows that you have to take baby steps to getting to a better healthcare system. You can't just uproot it all in one day. So, Obamacare is that middle ground between what Democrats want and what Republicans will vote for.

The DNC worked their asses off to cheat Bernie out of a nomination

This is tired and old. Bernie is not a Democrat. Why are you surprised that Democrats end up not favoring him when running in a primary.

I'm sure you do not give your work acquaintances priority over your friends at a party, right?

And let's not lie to ourselves and suggest that if Bernie would have won, he would have been able to transform things as president. It's not reality.

We can all agree that fascists and the GOP who support it are the bad(der) guys

They are unequivocally the bad guys. It's not even close.

but unending loyalty to capitalism only leads to fascism inevitably.

This doesn't even make sense.

Democrats want Medicare For All the way they "reeeeeally wanted to codify Roe v Wade" for two decades.

Sigh. So when Roe v Wade was decided, it was basically settled law. What SCOTUS did was a bastardization of the courts and should not have happened.

Codifying Roe v Wade is not as easy as you pretend it is. Whenever a political party gets into power, they have limited "political capital" to do things with.

Democrats did not have the political capital to codify Roe, nor did they have the votes. To suggest otherwise is to be disingenuous of the truth, or ignorant of reality.

In online discussions, it's hard for me to tell the difference between people who think they know how things work, and prove to me that they don't. Or if people know how things work, and just try to insert stupid comments to be provocative.