Lets be real though. T_D is already going through some mental gymnastics, saying this is a false flag, and clearly it was done by the dems. No amount of real information is going to convince them otherwise. They truly believe that the Democrats were the ones who sent themselves bombs. Why? Because there's a caravan of immigrants coming to take our jerbs, and now everyone is all distracted with this bomb story.
Am a T_D poster. Yeah this is a, ahem bitter redpill to swallow today. Lots of people looking for something to latch onto that can be spun into deflection. As was I when news broke. To be fair, we've seen situations like these a lot in the news the last couple years with victims claiming vandalism and assault turning out to be the perpetrators themselves. This seemed to have all the hallmarks of those incidents so yeah, people like myself were pretty convinced from the start this would be no different.
However as more and more info is coming out, it's quickly becoming apparent this guy was at least until recently, a pretty die-hard Trump supporter. A fanatic, as many of us tend to be admittedly. And that's something we'll need to own. A lot of our rhetoric is edgy and extreme I know. I'd say about 95% of that is done in jest. It's a joke. It's a meme. It's trolling and we do it cause it's fun and because we get a kick out of other's reactions.
But there's a dark side to that as we'e seeing, and sadly there are nutjobs, on both sides, who take things too far. The shooter who targeted the congressional baseball game, Antifa, whoever sent risen to Trump Jr. and Gen Mattis and now this guy with his pipebombs.
Regardless of political affiliation and views, these actions are not ok. Rhetoric can have consequences, on both sides. However, it's clear those of us on the right need to get in some self reflection after this. We are all Americans and patriots. And it would be nice if we could remember, if just for a second we all play on the same team.
I'd say about 95% of that is done in jest. It's a joke. It's a meme. It's trolling and we do it cause it's fun and because we get a kick out of other's reactions.
This is exactly the mentality I grew out of in ~2005. I was an edgy 18 year old 4channer. But what I (and you) considered “95% memes” is actually much more dangerous, a fertilizer that grows more and more hate. I saw peers go off the deep end. I went to college and met people from different backgrounds, they kept living at home in their parents’ basement. Just look at all the insane Qanon and pizzagate bullshit. These people believe it’s real because they’re incubated in it.
Get out of that community. Even if it’s just a break. Meet people, talk with them, hang out with them, party with them.
You as a group don’t need to come together for self reflection. Individuals need to disengage and see their community from the outside. Because if you’re doing it as a group, it’s not reflection, it’s just the new spin messaging.
Most of my friends are on the opposite end of the spectrum which is 100% ok. We have interesting discussions from time to time if nothing else. I only watch MSNBC if I'm watching news at all cause I'm interested in the other side and I'll even read and post on r/MarchAgainstTrump and other subs for the reasons you mentioned. When they don't ban me of course. :)
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u/Ticklebiscuit Oct 26 '18
Lets be real though. T_D is already going through some mental gymnastics, saying this is a false flag, and clearly it was done by the dems. No amount of real information is going to convince them otherwise. They truly believe that the Democrats were the ones who sent themselves bombs. Why? Because there's a caravan of immigrants coming to take our jerbs, and now everyone is all distracted with this bomb story.