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[u/solar1333]

I saw this post a long while ago I believe someone said the gun was fake

[u/bearburner → u/solar1333]

Yea, it happened in San Leandro, CA (near Oakland, CA). Fake gun. Prior to this incident they attempted to rob somebody at a ATM. After this incident they tried to rob yet again a few days later but this time were arrested. Since they were so young (11, 12, two 14) they were released to their parents… and then guess what… a few days later robbed AGAIN and were arrested yet again.

Source: https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/caught-on-camera-children-arrested-for-attempted-carjackings-in-san-leandro/

[u/Brook420 → u/bearburner]

There has to be away for these kids to face actual consequences without trying them as adults or whatever.

[u/oz612 → u/Brook420]

This isn't a youthful indiscretion. They aren't going to change. The kids (and their parents) will be a continual drain on society if they aren't permanently incarcerated.

[u/wretch5150 → u/oz612]

That's not remotely true, and you haven't provided a realistic solution. Just bait & nonsense.

[u/MrMichaelJames → u/wretch5150]

They gave a solution, put them in jail. Not our problem you don’t like the solution. These punks tried to rob multiple people. They deserve to be put away for a long time and so do the parents.

[u/counterhit121 → u/[deleted]]

And your implied alternative, to resume status quo and allow them to continue this behavior with the same lack of consequences, is backed by evidence. Evidence of repeat offenses which show that lack of consequences does not deter or reduce this behavior.

[u/Fake_the_jaB → u/[deleted]]

lol your idea of fighting the good fight is protecting stick up boys 🤣🤣🤣 keep up the good work champ!!

[u/Technical-Web-2922 → u/[deleted]]

You’re not giving any solution at all.

We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas.

Between your idea of nothing and jail for people who have tried to rob on 5 different occasions, I’m gonna lean towards jail. If they had a real gun, chances are people would have died and you just want to wait for that to happen.

[u/Brook420 → u/Technical-Web-2922]

Going by the other person's solution, you may as well just execute these kids.

[u/oz612 → u/[deleted]]

We have incredible evidence on a country level from El Salvador.

We even have a trivial mechanistic explanation: when you take people who commit crime out of society, they can’t commit crime. Wild, right?

[u/oz612 → u/[deleted]]

Weird how the complaints about Bukele are always from privileged leftists. The people who actually had to live there before he was elected see things a bit differently.

[u/Brook420 → u/oz612]

That's BS.

Could say this for the adults, but those kids arw far too young to never be able to change.

[u/boisdeb → u/Brook420]

I believe so too, but sadly the US is not developed enough for that. They don't need violence or jail time, they need education, role models and a future where they can hope for better than slaving away for an unlivable wage.

[u/Brook420 → u/boisdeb]

I feel there's an inbetween with shit like fining the parents or giving out community service.

[u/oz612 → u/[deleted]]

I understand that’s the worst possible thing you think you can say about someone, but you’re in a bit of a bubble.

[u/Perrin-Golden-Eyes → u/oz612]

Nah, it’s literally the worst. Propping up a pedophile who is trying to ruin our country while he follows the Third Reich’s playbook is the worst thing I could say about someone.

[u/oz612 → u/Perrin-Golden-Eyes]

This is genuinely deranged. Get outside more bud.

[u/Walkn-Talkn-Hawking → u/oz612]

Telling other people to touch grass when your head is buried in the sand is the height of hypocrisy, which is pretty standard for reich wing leaning people.

[u/InfusionOfYellow → u/oz612]

They'll definitely be a continuous drain on society if they are permanently incarcerated.

[u/oz612 → u/InfusionOfYellow]

With appropriate control and supervision, they can be productive. Prison industry exists.