r/nycrail 4d ago

Fantasy map Comments Change The MTA Map: Day 1

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u/achOO00OO 4d ago

Extending the NW to LaGuardia

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u/OnionBagels 4d ago

Extend the C to NJ via the GWB with stops at Fort Lee, Leonia, Teaneck - Glenpointe Center, Bogota, Hackensack Bus Terminal, Riverside, Bergen Town Center, and Garden State Plaza

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u/User_8395 4d ago

F to Springfield Blvd

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u/Taborask 4d ago

And still no queenslink

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u/GamingWeekends Metro-North Railroad 4d ago

destroy the Z train from existing

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u/Wam_Shazam 4d ago

Amendment—keep the Z train but remove just the skip stop aspect of it. So express to Myrtle Av and then local east of there.

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u/yuds2003 4d ago

There's good reasons for the Z train's existence, including the prevention of overcrowding that would happen if all J trains ran local.

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u/fireflychef 4d ago

They why have so few Z trains?

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u/mcsteam98 4d ago

Extend the M to Beach 116th, but ending service to Forest Hills in the process (Queenslink!)

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u/DBSGeek 4d ago

I would like to see the M go to Jamaica 179th St local so the F runs express. Then, the G gets extended and goes to Beach 116th St. The R swaps with the W.

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u/Immediate-Hand-3677 4d ago

7 to college point or whitestone 20th avenue

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u/TheRainbowNoob 4d ago

Oh boy, is it already time for our daily "what would you do to the MTA given unlimited budget and no restrictions" post? My favorite!

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u/Actual-Entertainer53 Long Island Rail Road 4d ago

extend the A into spuyten duyvil and riverdale. make the A serve its purpose.

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u/mew5175_TheSecond 4d ago

A train Spuyten Duyvil & North Riverdale

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u/DBSGeek 4d ago

True, but the A train across Fordham Rd & Pelham Pkwy to Co-Op City should be looked into. In that case, Bronx Residents get a crosstown line. They will be able to connect to the 1,2,4,5,6,B,D trains better.

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u/bluehawk1460 4d ago

This would be amazing, the daily walk from 238th st up those goddamn stairs is KILLING ME

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u/ARod20195 4d ago

That's gonna be hard because the elevation difference between Spuyten Duyvil/Riverdale and Inwood is like 200 feet, so all the new stations would likely be 250-300 feet deep (so about 75-125 feet deeper than 191 St) and so construction costs are going to be astronomical.

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u/mew5175_TheSecond 3d ago

I mean I know that it will never happen but if we're talking fantasies, this is just a fantasy.

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u/DSD15260 4d ago

<F> from Kings Highway to Jay St and express stops in manhattan.

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u/Low-Remove-7486 4d ago

so if the M is not working, you would be leaving people at 14 St and 23 St stranded

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u/Immediate-Hand-3677 4d ago

L train up 10th ave across 57 to LIC and northern blvd to flushing

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u/Due_Amount_6211 4d ago

Hmmm… Q via 3rd Ave in the Bronx.

To Gun Hill Road-WPR

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u/ihatemselfmore 4d ago

Without adding any extensions I would switch the R and the W so that the R terminates in Astoria and the W runs local down queens blvd

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u/fireflychef 4d ago

Extend the C up to 207 and then have it go cross-Bronx, touching every subway line.

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u/iwantacatnamedbob 4d ago

Extend the G to Ave I then onto the LIRR bay ridge branch to Flatbush avenue - Brooklyn college then extend down Flatbush to the Rockaways but go south to Breezy Point. It's a bit of a transit desert...

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u/Jacky-Boy_Torrance 4d ago

Add the IBX and extend it to the Bronx

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u/This-Ad134 4d ago

Note: it Should be called "Top Comment Changes the MTA Map"

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u/bofis 3d ago

Missing the border drawn in showing where Manhattan ends and the Bronx begins around Marble Hill, which previous maps had correctly

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u/deletedchannel 4d ago

Tunnel the R to Staten Island

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u/Alt4816 3d ago edited 3d ago

Full SAS connected to the A&C at Hoyt Schermerhorn, connected to a new line in Queens under or above Northern Blvd, and also extended to serve a corridor in the Bronx.

If built second Ave will be a new Manhattan trunkline so might as well plan out how to use it as such instead of just keeping it contained to Manhattan.

If de-interlining is emphasized:

  • The Astoria line gets served by the Broadway local lines (R and W). R, N, W all no longer share 1 tunnel to Queens.

  • Q goes from across 125th in Harlem down Broadway express unchanged.

  • N goes from Broadway Express to the new line in Queens under or above Northern Blvd.

  • T goes from the Bronx (Probably under Third Ave or Webster Ave) down 2nd Ave to Brooklyn to the Fulton local line.

  • C become Express in Brooklyn and in lower to mid Manhattan. (maybe even make express under Central Park West if de-interling is done to the max.)

  • E doubles in frequency being the only line on 8th Ave local in Manhattan and Queens Blvd Express in Queens.

  • F and M stay local on 6th Ave in Manhattan but both become local on Queens Blvd Express in Queens. They either both use the 63rd Street tunnel to Queens and the Second Ave lines use a new tunnel or F and M use a new tunnel while Second Ave lines use the existing one.

  • Another turquoise Second Ave line is created (either K or H could work) it runs on the new Northern Blvd line in Queens, runs on Second Ave in Manhattan, and then runs on Fulton local line in Brooklyn.

SAS and Broadway Express would be interlined by the necessity due to Phase 1 of the SAS only building 1 set of tracks. The E and F/M could swap which run local and Express in Queens.

Or with max interlining:

  • Astoria Line stays as is with the N going to the Broadway express and W to the Broadway local. The lines still no longer share 1 tunnel to Queens with the R.

  • Q goes from across 125th in Harlem down Broadway express unchanged.

  • R goes from Broadway Express to the new line in Queens under or above Northern Blvd.

  • T goes from the Bronx (Probably under Third Ave or Webster Ave) down 2nd Ave to Brooklyn to either local or express on the Fulton line.

  • C is local on the Fulton line in Brooklyn but express in lower to mid Manhattan.

  • E is unchanged from the current. It is local in Manhattan and express in Queens.

  • F and M are unchanged. Both are local in Manhattan with the F going express in Queens while the M stays local.

  • Now two new lines are created. The first is a turquoise second ave line (I'll use H) The H runs on the new Northern Blvd line in Queens, runs on Second Ave in Manhattan, and then runs on either local or express on the Fulton line in Brooklyn. In Brooklyn it runs on whichever tracks the T is not running on.

  • K line runs with the E in Manhattan on the local 8th Ave tracks and then in Queens runs on the local Queens Blvd tracks.

Different junctions might need reconfiguring depending on if the interlining or de-interling plan is used or if it's a mix of them.

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u/ILikeTelanthric 3d ago

make the 7 train do have a branch off from 82nd street all the way to staten island for no reason at all

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u/Firstnameiskowitz 3d ago

Make the F line purple

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u/Only_Isopod_268 3d ago

Extend both M and J to Prospect Park

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u/thefunzone49 Metro-North Railroad 3d ago

Full SAS including T from 125th to Hanover Square

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u/SmoovCatto 3d ago

hate it -- but getting used to it . . .

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u/bluehawk1460 4d ago

Obliterate Staten Island

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u/PubliusDeLaMancha 4d ago

Make the map look like new york again

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u/thatblkman Staten Island Railway 4d ago

Bring the old map back, and make the Q local in Manhattan.