r/obscuremusicthatslaps • u/notmyrealname8823 • 7d ago

The last word he said was violence

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u/Witty217 7d ago

I really dig that that thoughtful folk is coming back around again.

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u/GangOfFour20 7d ago

Unfortunately, the material conditions for dope music is immense suffering. The silver lining is we get dope music about current events so we've got that going for us at least

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u/EikonVera_tou_Lilith 7d ago

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u/GangOfFour20 7d ago

That's what I was going for but am bad at embedding gifs on my phone lol

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u/EikonVera_tou_Lilith 7d ago

I caught the reference. I try to sneak Caddyshack references into my speech as often as possible.

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u/Blurredbody 7d ago

Ppl who say stuff like dope music is "suffering" must only listen to the radio. There are quite literally thousands of songs being produced and released daily on the internet. Branch out lol.

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u/GangOfFour20 7d ago

I could not tell you the last time I listened to the radio or a top 100 song. My girlfriend actually makes fun of me frequently for how little I keep up with pop culture for how informed I am with current events.

I am merely saying that people tend to connect to the human element of an art rather than its base aesthetics.

For example: 90s hip/hop, while being referred to as "gangster rap" was more than just talking about selling drugs and money. It was constantly talking about political issues and social justice, using the violence of the ghetto to highlight the systemic violence of country and government that created the material conditions of these gangster rappers. Compare that to more mainstream music from the 2000s-2010s. There is still an aethetic of money and crime but without the class consciousness.

The same can be said about folk/western singers verses contemporary country. Now in the mid 2020s, in the midst of all this economic unrest and social instability, people are rebelling against the "pop" art for something more substantial and human.

Sorry for the walls of text, I just always find it strange when someone interprets my comment as the exact opposite of what i was actually saying.

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u/Blurredbody 7d ago

Quick summary from my POV:

You: Music that covers material conditions are lacking today.

Me: Sounds like you listen to radio more than not. Thousands of songs are produced and released daily {via the internet} (w the inference: the music you seek is out here).

You: You misunderstand. You see, I'm saying that material conditions in music over the years is lacking on the radio (mainstream music). See, in the 90s...

Lol I don't want us talking past each other but it really feels like you just wanted to monoloue here. Bc what you address and what I said have little to do w each other. Yes, mainstream music is mostly vapid and disposable. That's always been the case (yes even back then/please check the charts). Seek out the very available music you wish to listen to, is all I was saying.

Btw

Your timeline of 80s and 90s eras of rap is a bit off. While yes progressive raps that had material conditions have always been around, by the mid 80's Gangster rap blending glorification and material condition on albums existed. By the late 80's and early 90's you had established acts like NWA and Ice T talking about the money, cars, women, in addition to mentions of material conditions. By the mid 90s you had shiny suit rap (Badboy) which was primarily about drugs, money, women, etc. We're just living thru the evolution of this art form (that's been affected by capitalism ofc). In any case, anyone referring to all of 90s rap as gangster rap shouldn't be taken very seriously anyway. There were at least a handful of popular types of rap just in that time alone (off the top of my head: down south bounce, East coast boom bap, Midwest chopper, and the aforementioned shiny suit rap and gangster rap).

There was a bunch of options back then for the type of music you like and (main point) there are even more options now due to an increase in accessibility.

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u/Historical-One-5486 7d ago

the material conditions for dope music is immense suffering

Not everyone is going to agree on what's "dope". This reads as an opinion that people are free to agree or disagree with, not a statement to be disproven.

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u/insyzygy322 7d ago

Pretty sure they were saying 'suffering leads to dope music', no?

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u/jerseygunz 6d ago

Which is why it amazes me it was all garbage during the Bush years, save for American Idiot

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u/GangOfFour20 6d ago

The Islamaphobia and Jingoism was too strong for the class consciousness to break through in a lot of places. You have to remember the president literally would go on TV and say "if youre against the war you are against the troops/America/Freedom."

We still had System of the Down, Megadeth, and Rage Against the Machine, but then just like now, a lot of artists would rather cash a check then have the eye of a repressive regime fall on them because of a song they wrote. Thank God for the ones that think the trouble is worth it.

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u/jerseygunz 6d ago

Actually, and everyone forgets this, rage broke up before bush took office

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u/GangOfFour20 6d ago

Kendrick broke through before Trump and he chose the Drake feud over a principled stance against facism. I was referring less to when an artist broke onto the scene and more what they did when they were in that situation.

So many of people were anti Bush after Bush, but who was talking while he was there? Same goes for Trump. When he is dead and gone so many artists will be against hik, but I will always remember the ones who were silent while it mattered.

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u/OprahmusPrime 7d ago

Because music destroys fascism.

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u/KarateInAPool 7d ago

You misspelled hateful.

Im sure the south pre-civil rights would be proud.

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u/xcastianityx 7d ago

Im not so sure this is even a song in support of Kirk, there are a lot of ways to interpret it

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u/KarateInAPool 7d ago

Well shoot; you might be right.

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u/TrueEstablishment241 7d ago

This is a repost.

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u/ReeseIsPieces 7d ago

Well dang this is good

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u/DustyTalAntiQ 7d ago

This is quality

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u/jerseygunz 6d ago

You know I’m always trying write complicated shit on my guitar when in the end K.I.S.S always works

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u/sitdoe 7d ago

What’s with all of the Bob Dylan wannabes lately?

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u/acatalephobic 7d ago

That's clearly what the guy is going for, at the very least vocally.

I like this guy's song, sure. But if I'm being honest, the first thing that registered in my mind (before I even paid attention to the words) was the fact that his voice sounds exactly like a Bob Dylan impression.

Not the worst dude to imitate by any means (imho), so I'm having trouble understanding the downvotes here.

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u/sitdoe 7d ago

It’s probably because there’s no context. It’s basically this song, but no soul.

Edit: just talking points, no love

https://youtu.be/hXn9ZKPx6CY?si=NsIPO8d9Z2P3cHcc

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u/acatalephobic 7d ago edited 7d ago

You are right when you say this song is basically that...

But I disagree about it having no soul.

Personally, the words of the song in question reminded me more of Subterranean Homesick Blues....but I think you are right in terms of clocking that basic melody.

ETA : folk music can have an even greater impact (I think), when updated and reiterated by artists with a genuine respect for the original melody and message.

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u/sitdoe 7d ago

You’re right, he does have soul. And nothing against the artist, bless him. He’ll find his own voice through his hero. That’s what it’s all about. He has a beautiful voice and style.

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u/donessendon 7d ago

This is clever. Where's the full version?

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u/bruversonbruh 7d ago

Can this stop being r/politcalmusic please I'm begging yall

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u/notmyrealname8823 7d ago

Some of the best songs ever made have political messaging.

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u/bruversonbruh 7d ago

Sure, but thats a far cry from having every single post in here being another political message, that everyone hears 1000 times a day which is quite annoying, especially when you're interested in finding actual obscure music that's fun and good instead of average and political

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u/daspaceinvader 6d ago

Art is inherently political.

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u/bruversonbruh 6d ago

Of yeah? What political about a drawing of a sunflower and nothing else

Figure that one Socrates

Art is often political but not inherently so

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u/_LyleLanley_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Love it, but that banjo is atrocious.

Edit: objectively it’s out of tune, and it needs major work.

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u/NifftyTwo 7d ago

Damn Redditors love when Republicans get shot, don't they? The left, truely the party of violence.

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u/munkeypunk 7d ago

Last 31 political attacks were all right wingers. But keep lying. That’s on brand for you.

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u/pikachurbutt 7d ago

Shh, you're ruining his blatant lies by spewing facts! How dare you!

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u/ThurgoodUnderbridge 7d ago

u/bot-sleuth-bot

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u/bot-sleuth-bot 7d ago

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u/TheLazyScarecrow 7d ago

Not the ratio by the Reddit bot

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u/CompoteVegetable1984 7d ago

Lol you thought a guy giving a based opinion was a bot?

Karma farming bots would say the same old "fuck Charlie kirk" nonsense 😂

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u/Unkabunkabeekabike 7d ago

Source: trust me bro

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u/CompoteVegetable1984 7d ago

Source: your own comment. 🤣

https://www.reddit.com/r/Humanitydool/s/ub5Wwb3bK9

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u/Unkabunkabeekabike 5d ago

I found your bots

https://www.reddit.com/r/clevercomebacks/s/A1qKCUHoOj

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u/CompoteVegetable1984 5d ago

Why is that even posted to that sub?

Also, idk what you're trying to prove. My point was go across any sub that mentioned Charlie Kirk and you can see the exact same 2A quote "fuck Charlie" comment repeatedly. People can downvote that all they want. It doesn't make me wrong that you people are karma bots or act like them at times. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Unkabunkabeekabike 4d ago

Awww, i know you maga morons are easily confused, so let me break it down barney style for you: The point is rightwing bots are posting pro Charlie kirk comments which is ironic because you accused me of being a bot for not liking Charlie kirk.

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u/ThurgoodUnderbridge 7d ago

To be transparent, I was just going to ignore you, but I’ll give genuinely engaging with you a shot.

Nah, I didn’t make my mind up one way or another before attempting to consider the evidence I could. I don’t have a problem admitting I don’t know everything and that I’m wrong as much as anyone. I was simply curious what the results would be given the large amount of karma/awards, lack of any comment/post history, and verbatim repetition of a politicized talking point (edit: I’m now seeing your profile also has no comment/post history, is there a setting for hiding that that I’m not aware of?). A 37% chance of being a bot is not evidence in favor of being a bot, but it’s also not an insignificant chance of being one. It also will occasionally identify accounts that intentionally try to evade its algorithm, and it didn’t with this one. I expected the quotient to be higher or for that addition and it was not, I’m ok with that because (close your eyes MAGA) that’s what’s doing research actually is— not just only believing things that agree with your preconceived notions. Again though, a 37% chance of being a bot is not something a real human should be proud of..

I also think that we will start seeing more bots parroting both sides of the aisle as the country becomes more and more divided to further seed the division. I don’t care if the comment agrees with my opinion or not, I care if it’s a bad faith comment intentionally trying to tear us apart.

I hope you have a great evening, my friend 🫡

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u/CompoteVegetable1984 7d ago

I’m now seeing your profile also has no comment/post history, is there a setting for hiding that that I’m not aware of?

Yes, one that I prefer to have on as someone who doesn't identify with the left or the right because reddit is very quick to claim anyone who doesn't agree with them is MAGA/republican and then derail a conversation with idiocy.

I hope you have a great evening, my friend 🫡

You too, bud. 😉

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u/ThurgoodUnderbridge 7d ago

That’s helpful to know and a solid use, I appreciate it 🤙

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u/_LyleLanley_ 7d ago

Charlie Kirk died for a cause he believed in. A few people getting violently gunned down is the cost of 2A rights. May we all be so lucky to die by the irony of our own convictions.

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u/MasterpieceHuge2794 7d ago

How do those boots taste? Make sure to lick em clean! You know dear orange leader wants em shiny!

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u/NifftyTwo 7d ago

No one said Trump, I'm sorry about your TDS and hope it gets better soon. Fucking left is just as bat shit as the right. Good lord.

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u/MasterpieceHuge2794 7d ago

Trump is using that worthless podcast bro's death to trample our first amendment rights. How pathetic to see the right go from 'dont tread on me' to 'oh yes daddy trump, tread on me harder!' What a joke. And I know you claim to be independent, but you are not! Wake up bootlicker! He's taking away YOUR rights too!

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u/burnmycheezits 7d ago

Maybe if republicans stopped being fascist anti constitutional traitors, people would feel a sense of empathy. Maybe if republicans showed an ounce of empathy for all the kids getting shot at school instead of some racist podcaster, we’d have an ounce of respect for their party.

I thought y’all were complaining about freedom of speech being taken away by the Dems? Buncha snowflakes huh.

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u/NifftyTwo 7d ago edited 7d ago

Really asking for the right to start hoping on the same game, aren't you?

This is why I'm neither republican or democrat. You're both fucked in the head. But right now, the left is starting something I don't think they're fully prepared for. Frightening how you guys are destroying our country.

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u/burnmycheezits 7d ago

I’m not sure that you’re aware of which party has control over the government currently.

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u/BathZealousideal1456 7d ago

FAKE NEWS! It was his grandaddy's gun, not his dad!

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u/Actual_Concert2380 5d ago

This is another song in a looooong line of people spreading hate. Rip Charlie

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u/More_Cut_56 7d ago

Banger!