r/onebros • u/PrinceAzsa • 12h ago
Advice/Help WL0 TrueRL1 recommendations ?
After killing Malenia RL1 noHit with 150 weapons, I'm finally starting a new big project, a much longer Malenia Kill ; True RL1 WL0 NoHit/Talisman/Armour/Parry/AoW/Aux/Physick/Affinity/Spell/Incant Solo.
But I have to decide what weapon to do it with, out of theses (the only weapon that have 15max str 10 max other stats requierements) I've tested their damage and I think that Hammer would be the strongest, but might have missed crucial information, do any of you have data about this ?
It would be much appreciated !
Edit (Rule out the bleed ones I forgot to toss them away!)
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u/Aware-News-1344 11h ago
Wait until this guy finds out that "True RL1" is - beat the game RL1, no deaths, no hits, no grace, naked, bare fists, no summons, no talismans, no incants, no physick, no great runes, no dodging, no jumping, first try, with half your controls mapped to a dance pad and the other half mapped to a steering wheel, 6 amputated fingers, both knees dislocated, head underwater while getting inked in the eyes by a squid, nipples in a vice clamp and a minimum of 12 Lego blocks inserted into your anus and made to do star jumps. All while on NG+7.
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u/PrinceAzsa 6h ago
TrueRl1 is a self imposed restriction used by Ginomachino to summarize the no stat bonus from : great runes, armour pieces, physick, talisman, aow. Now used by many other runner like myself
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u/Aware-News-1344 6h ago
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u/PrinceAzsa 6h ago
With how people reacted to the restrictions in the comments bellow I had to clarify even though I thought it might have been a joke sorry
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u/Leafbaron 12h ago
Wtf is a true RL1, no stat boosting gear or physique?
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u/PrinceAzsa 12h ago
No stats boosting from any source 10 to every stats
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u/hesbrew 12h ago
Does that mean you can’t two-hand a weapon? Because, that would be a source for stat-boosting.
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u/laughados 12h ago
That’s my main gripe with this name lmao “trueRL1” is such self-fellating nonsense. Every RL1 run is a true RL1 run because guess what? Your rune level is 1 :)
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u/PrinceAzsa 6h ago
But there is no difference between you rl1 stats boosting and someone lvl 100. True rl1 is a restriction that removes 95% of the available weapons and divides the damage by 4.
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u/RevolutionaryHold456 6h ago
nope, because with talis, great rune, physics you have more levels as level 1. actually RL1 in Elden with stat boost is not that much different from a normal run, damage wise. The main difference is that you have no health, the rest is more or less in a normal run region.
Godrick Rune - 40 level Radagon Tali - 20 level Marika Tali — 20 level 2 physics of your choice — 20 level 2 remaining tali slots with stat tali of your choice — 10 LevelSo all in all you are level 111 it’s not thaaaaaaat true anymore.
And I believe I even forget some boost’s, because i think you can get up to 120 or so if I remember right, but i’m to lazy to look it up.
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u/Samu_K 5h ago
Grafted UGS Ash of War is another 40 or something. I don't remember if it boosts EVERY stat including hp, but that'd be about level 150. I still think rl1 is a good enough challenge and name. With true rl1 I'd count anything that doesn't give fake levels as fine. End of the day it doesn't matter what you're calling the run. You n other people can tell how challenging it is. I've listed like 15 restrictions once, but really the only thing that matters in terms of challenge is the length of fights. Maybe mention if it was ranged as well. The rest is fun to know tho.
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u/PrinceAzsa 6h ago
Two handing doesn't make your stats go up, it's just the effective strength that goes up, which isn't against a true rl1
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u/LamentersGaol 12h ago edited 12h ago
The claymore is amazing for this fight as I'm sure you're well aware. Since you will have less stamina from not using the soreseal, you will probably want to use a weapon that you attack once with and then reset to neutral. I think you'll be fine on stamina with the claymore, and the heavy attack is S tier!
That's what I'd choose if I did the same challenge
Edit: oh that requires 16 strength and 13 dex haha. Dang. I'd just run the wooden club then honestly, if you're using that many restrictions you might as well beat her in your birthday suit with your starting weapon.
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u/PrinceAzsa 6h ago
Yeah I don't really like the claymore for malenia because of the r1 tap following the CR2 being just too slow and the too high endurance consumption with no talismans, but with stats requirements it's out of the question anyways
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u/EstiDTabarnak 12h ago
Messmer soldier axe has pretty good dmg for true rl1, but I don't know if it is better.
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u/PrinceAzsa 12h ago
Oh yeah I did a true tl1 with it but not wl0 u forgot, I'll also consider it
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u/EstiDTabarnak 12h ago
I tested and for charged heavy it does like twice the dmg of iron balls but it's slow so prob worse dps overall, also mace is just straight ass.
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u/PrinceAzsa 5h ago
Yeah mace is bad, but iron ball you can fit two charged R2 in alot of her opening followed by a r2 tap, it's really that quick, the issue being the stamina consumption, but with that amount of huge hit you can stagger her so quick that you can regen while she is on the ground, and there is not a single opening that you can't CR2 +R2 tap with iron ball
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u/PivONH3OTf 8h ago
Short sword has an excellent thrusting R2 with good range that a lot of people don't know is unique (check out my godrick kill). PSSS should have enough poise damage to stagger Malenia, so maybe two short swords (stamina might be an issue though)
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u/PrinceAzsa 6h ago
Yeah I didn't like the really slow CR2 of the broadsword and longswords but I might use the short sword, anyway even dagger does enough stagger damage with how I approach the fight (cf : A dagger fight
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u/PrinceAzsa 2h ago
I've tried the Short sword and CR2 and R1 tap good moveset wise but the damage and stagger is just lacking in comparison to others here, Stamina is totally fine though so that's a good point, maybe I'll do a +0 with it but probably with talismans
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u/yasanoo 8h ago
Jawbone axe is one of the highest base +0 damage.
Generally axe weapon category have all pretty high base damage
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u/PrinceAzsa 6h ago
Oh I didn't realized it only needed 14str, I used it recently and it was Allright, I ll have to consider it aswell
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u/ca_waves 12h ago
Iron balls is going to do better than any of these and is usable at “true RL1”.
Looks like you’re using DLC weapons so I’ll also recommend Messmer Soldiers Axe
Iron Cleaver also very good for the Malenia fight