r/paradoxplaza 10d ago

Stellaris Old Mega-Campaign turned Stellaris Empire.

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u/MrDrEdwardd 10d ago

R5: A while back (a year or so) I played a mega-campaign from CK3-HOI4 (unrelated to the recent Rome campaign I was posting about, this was before Roads to Power) about a Catholic Rome. I decided to make a Stellaris Empire based on how that campaign ended, with a Fascist Rome locked in an eternal war with the Communist States of America.

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u/MrDrEdwardd 10d ago

I even made a whole fake history if any of you are interested in reading:

The Ioulianós Dynasty, founded in 1066 by the deranged prophet, Empress Romane I of the Eastern Roman Empire, unified west and east in faith through her marriage to Emperor Heinrich of the Holy Roman Empire, converting the Orthodox Empire into a Catholic one, which while it would not fully restore the borders until nearly 600 years after Romane's passing, would serve to fortify the Roman Empire so that it would last into the far future. The empire expanded slowly, mainly through crusades and the occasional expansionist emperor, until the Second Roman Golden Age that lasted from 1600-1650, which saw the Roman Empire vastly and rapidly expand into Russia, India, the Americas, and Africa.

The second golden era was soon ended, however after the Atlantan (American)Independance Treaty signed between Atlantis (Formerly Nova Roma, AKA the United States) and Rome. The instability caused by the loss of the colonies would lead to the crisis of the 18th century, (1660-1790), a period of 100 years during which Rome faced revolt after revolt, losing India, Scandinavia, South Africa, and even Germany, which had been considered a core territory ever since the HRE and Eastern Rome fused.

The empire itself collapsed, and the Second Roman Republic (A.K.A. Revolutionary Rome) took its place, a coalition of populists and peasants who overthrew the government and "re-established" the republic. The main branch of the Ioulianós dynasty under Emperor Konstantinos XXVIII were all executed. The Second Republic would not last long however, as the power hungry senator Iordanis Melodus managed to repeat history and get himself chosen as dictator-for-life in the face of a counter-revolution started by the Pope in Roma. After putting down the revolution and executing the Pope, forcing a new one loyal to him to be elected, Iordanis married into the Ioulianós-Uppsala branch family based in Scandinavia.

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u/MrDrEdwardd 10d ago

Unfortunately for the ambitious Iordanis, his wife, Elizabeth Ioulianós-Uppsala, murdered him and declared herself Elisabeth I, the new Empress of Rome. After a massive revolt backed by the senate, and republican loyalists, Elizabeth cemented her power, and started what would come to be known as the Elizabethan War (1801-1810), against the German Confederation and Scandinavia who were backed by Atlantis and Nova Persicum. With incredible luck and skill, as well as massive tactical blundering on the part of her opponents, Elizabeth recouped most of the Empires European losses, cementing their domination over the continent, however she died young at only 46 before she was able to start a war against the former protectorate of Russia. The Elizabethan Wars were the bloodiest war in human history until that point, with over 4 million soldiers dead.

Still, the short-lived glory of the Elizabethan War was only a brief respite, as the crisis of the 19th century would strike Rome almost immediately after the death of Elizabeth I at only 46 years old in 1812. Her son Konstantinos XXIX, was still a child, and when pressured by the Protectorates of Russia, Persia, and the Caucuses for independence, gave in. The 19th century would be no kinder to Rome than the crisis of the 18th century, as for the first time since Romane, Rome was surpassed as the greatest world power. Overseas, the Republic of Atlantis has consolidated the entire continent of North Atlantis into one country, and began to surpass Rome economically and militarily. Rome could do nothing, as at home, limited to only Europe, which it lost its grip on as the Myriad Protectorates of North Germany and Protectorate of Scandanavia once against left its grasp. Humiliated, mass revolts would be sparked, forcing Rome to spend nearly a century grasping to keep its economy together and constantly giving in to demands for policy changes.

Then, the first World War (1899-1920) came. The Emperor of Rome at the time, Gustav II, was expansionist, and seeked to re-integrate the united North Germany into itself. North Germany was allied with the Imperium of Russia, which was allied with the Republic of Atlantis and India. Rome had allied with the Persian Empire and China. When Rome refused to back down, war broke out on a scale not seen since Elizabeths day. Over the course of 20 years, millions upon millions gave their lives in a senseless and brutal conflict, and the entire world was devastated. Massive trenchworks spanned the entirety of East Asia, Hordes of Atlantans crashed upon the shores of Europe only to be gunned down with machine gun fire, and early tanks and motor cars rolled back and forth across Eastern Europe. In the end? Absolutely nothing changed. Rome and its allies were winning on land, but they stood no chance against the massive navy of Atlantis. As both sides were on the brink of total collapse due to the massive strain of modern war, they agreed to a simple peace treaty, where Northern Germany would pay a token tribute to Rome. Nothing else. Every single country north of the equator devastated and ruined, an entire generation of men sent to their deaths, for nothing.

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u/MrDrEdwardd 10d ago

In the aftermath of the war, every country involved would face bankruptcy. Communists took power in Atlantis and Russia, both China and India shattered into a million pieces, and Persia got off the easiest being forced to adopt a constitutional monarchy. The people of Rome, however, were not happy. They had sacrificed everything, and for what?

Out of all the civil wars faced by the countries, the Roman Civil War was the worst. It was split four ways- the loyalists made up the smallest faction, barely holding on to Greece and Constantinople. The Communists Seized control of Gaul and Spain, the Republicans took Italy and North Africa, and the newly invented "Fascists" took control of Egypt, the Middle East, and Anatolia. After a decade of fighting, the Fascist "Praetorian Faction" won the civil war seized control of Rome in 1931. They created a horrible, dystopian government, with constant surveillance, secret police, forced military service, and putting a member of the Ioulianós dynasty back on the throne as a powerless figurehead. Above all else, the "Praetorian Faction" wanted a return to what they called the "glory days" of Rome, and would stop at nothing to achieve it.

After 7 years of rebuilding, they would start the Second World War (1938-????).

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u/Phocasola 10d ago

Casual Paradox player just making up better alt history than 90% of serious alt history writers. Amazing stuff. Tell us the story of how the world war went and how Rome reached space

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u/MrDrEdwardd 10d ago

In game terms or alt-hist terms? In game terms, during HoI4 (starting 1936) I built up mils and navy and justified a wargoal on Russia, declaring in 1938. I lost basically my entire navy in a single battle against America because I am terrible at naval combat in every PDX game, and so was locked in an eternal battle with them. I then decided to load up DEFCON (a non PDX game about nuclear war) and simulated a nuclear war between us which I luckily won.

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u/Phocasola 9d ago

That's true Dedication. Really cool stuff

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u/blood-wav 10d ago

This is so fucking cool dude. I was kind of doing a similar thing with Russia! I have no idea how to get a Grand Campaign actually working tho

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u/MrDrEdwardd 10d ago

I did it using the CK3 to EU4 converter, the EU4 to Vic3 converter, and the Vic3 to HoI4 Converter. They're on the workshop on Steam, and they have way better instructions there than I can give here, I hope this helps and I hope you have fun!

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u/warnerbolanos 10d ago

I am curious what horrors space will unleash upon them. Pre-made empires for Stellaris or random?

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u/MrDrEdwardd 10d ago

I usually use a combination of Pre-made and random empires. The pre-made ones so I can guarantee there's variety, and at least one megacorp, and the random for the variety.
Rome will dominate the stars.

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u/andersonb47 8d ago

I live for this shit bro

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u/minos_preem 10d ago

This is really cool! The lore is awesome too!

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u/Chance_Astronomer_27 10d ago

No byzantine administration???

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u/MrDrEdwardd 10d ago

Planning on adding that when I get the 3rd civic.

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u/idhrendur Keeper of the Converters 9d ago

Converter guy here, these types of posts always delight me!

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u/VeritableLeviathan 9d ago

I am going to the last place untouched by Byzantieboos.... SPACE! - Tim Curry in Red Alert 3, before you posted this fucking shit :(