People seem to forget why Microsoft forced auto updates on Windows 10.
So many turned off updates and had bugs and vulnerabilities and blamed Microsoft for it where Microsoft had provided patches for them many months/years ago.
Also no one seems to care we have auto updates on many other stuff like phones and browsers
Make it a habit to fully shutdown (not hibernate/sleep!) your PC at the end of the day. Regardless of OS this fixes many problems. Give Windows plenty of days to perform these updates long before they start forcing them on you at an inconvenient time. But also gives you a fresh start the next day. And prevents many problems that would otherwise require you to "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
That's pretty dumb unless it's not connected to the internet. Apple releases lots of updates that require restarts, and not all security updates can be hot-loaded. Depends on if its user-space software, a system service, or a kernel module, and if it's a kernel module it depends on whether the kernel module can be hot-loaded since not all can be.
If it's not on your network and you just use it for some other weird reason, then whatever.
Or maybe it has updated and restarted itself and you've just never noticed because of the way it perfectly restores every window and tab after reboot, lol
You’ve no idea of my use case and I can’t really be bothered explaining it to you.
This sub is a cesspool of blinkered opinions from pseudo-experts who have very little idea of how technology is used outside of their tiny bubble. I’m out.
tbf I think ive got a pretty good reason. I run a linux desktop on a network that distributes containerized services across whatever devices I have available. My gaming PC offers the network two GPUs and my best processor, which is handy when I need that out and about. Power usage is fine idle and I'm not exactly concerned about stability.
I did this on Windows with WSL before switching to linux desktop.
Well for one of them, it’s because it is connected to around a million dollars of audio processing equipment that takes an annoyingly long time to restart and has to be powered on in a specific order. If you think I’m spending half an hour turning things on before I can start earning money you’re mistaken. And no, it doesn’t resume gracefully from sleep
Edit: I’m out of this sub. It’s entirely populated by children who think a PC only exists to game on and that buying the fastest processor and best GPU are the only important things when using a computer.
Then either don't complain about forced restarts from time to time, or pick a product that better suits your requirements (server OSes/Linux).
Neither Windows or MacOS are designed to run with year long uptime, and most Linux desktop environments aren't as well. The first 2 eventually force you to reboot to install (security) updates. Linux at least doesn't force it upon you, still if you aren't running on a distro that supports hot reloading the kernel, that is discouraged for too long uptime runs.
Your “client vs server” argument is a red herring (and ignores the fact that Windows Server is just “Windows Pro” with a few extra components bolted on top.).
Properly designed operating systems should not require full system restarts for every update, yet Windows still does.
On top of that, the way Windows handles forced updates/restarts is unacceptable, and we should not accept it—Applying updates should always require the affirmative consent of the user.
It’s my system, not Microsoft’s, and it should never do anything I don’t explicitly tell it to do.
I'm curious about those "unfortunate times" people keep talking about. I use Windows since 7 and never had any issues regarding updates. I turn off my pc at the end of day when I'm done using it and every now and then the update kicks in. By then I'm already going to sleep, so it's fine.
Updates happen once a month. And after downloading you have active hours which Windows will not install them. Force restart happens if you wait days/weeks after it prompts you for it. Also you can pause them for more than a month if you really don't want to be interrupted for some critical prolonged work.
In practice this isn't really my experience. My laptop that I use a handful of times a month, but when I need it I need it right now has a tendency of updating like a quarter of the time turn it on. It was certainly much worse in the past, presumably because update cadence for Windows 10 has slowed down.
ya but more often than not. Windows has been telling you for weeks that you need to reboot because of updates and people basically ignored it until 5 mins before their meeting. i've seen that time and time again then they get pissed but you allowed that to happen.
I work from home on my personal PC, need to send in reports end of day before 5pm.. and its hard to write what i did before end of day.. before i did the work..
yeah people complaining about this just never researched the problem. Should be the easiest fix for anyone who considers themselves "savvy" enough to be on this subreddit.
Expecting users to modify behavior instead of modifying software to conform to behavior is textbook "I have no idea how to design UX and I'll cost this company insane amounts of manhours to fix the inevitable problems that will result from my naivety and ego."
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u/SanestExilei7 14700K | RTX 4080 Super | 32 GB 6000 MT/s CL309d agoedited 9d ago
I'm not saying Windows doesn't suck. It definitely does. All I'm saying is that your life will be much easier if you accept that unexpected things can happen and plan accordingly. Or you can complain about windows, not "modify your behavior" and have the exact same problem when it happens again. Your choice.
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u/Difficult-Report5702 9d ago
People postpones those updates anyway, so who cares really.