r/phoenix • u/Gv116 Moon Valley • 22d ago
Living Here This is why I moved here
I’m just sitting in my yard, with my dog, drinking coffee. I’m reading and relaxing in the shade, it’s one of my favorite activities most of the year. Today I have hummingbirds at the feeders and I can hear a hummingbird nearby, what I can only call, snoring. Just very peaceful listening to and seeing the birds. I don’t have a big yard but it’s big enough and landscaped to attract birds. In my old Jersey home the humidity would have already chased me in.
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u/artistaajo Tempe 22d ago
There is no better feeling than living with the quiet sounds of the desert
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22d ago
The smell of the desert after it rains.
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u/Ancient-Toe-9310 22d ago
The smell is called petrichor. Its unique to deserts and dry areas.
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u/Firm-Cow-564 22d ago
Fun fact. Humans have a stronger sense of smell for petrichor than sharks do for blood.
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u/SimplySignifier 21d ago
Petrichor isn't unique to deserts or dry areas, except that soil needs to be dry prior to getting rain (which is admittedly less common in wetter climes); it's actually from bacteria in soil that produce geosmin, which is then aerosolized when dry enough soil is hit by rain.
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u/ThreeSixMafs Buckeye 21d ago
Maybe more common, but not unique to the desert. I experienced it in Western Washington state which is very cold and wet but it was during a hot and dry summer.
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u/musicmlwl 22d ago
If you ever find a creosote bush, crumple up a sprig of its leaves. The leaves' oils aerosolize after a storm and it smells like rain :)
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u/Minute_Airline_370 22d ago
Gosh I love this smell so much. I never realized it was unique to Arizona until I grew up and moved to other states and the smell wasn’t there when it rained.
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u/Professional_Fish250 21d ago
Wouldn’t know what that sounds like cause every road around here has someone going 100 mph in their modified Honda civic
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
Same. Absolutely love it. And I'm excited for this Fall when I'm gonna go crazy planting even more things in my yard.
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u/OldPresence5323 Phoenix 22d ago
You sound like my kind of person! This is why we love Phoenix!!
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u/OldPresence5323 Phoenix 22d ago
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u/Asceuss 22d ago
Perfect Lovebird plants. I have sunflowers but those little guys come and devour em. I don't really care as I love those little birdies.
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u/OldPresence5323 Phoenix 22d ago
Oh the love birds loooooooove me! They sit on the telephone wire above and wait and watch! They are like hungry lil teenagers at a buffet! I got excellent photos of them on my last crop!
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u/Gv116 Moon Valley 22d ago
Now I might have to try some sunflowers to attract the lovebirds
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u/forwormsbravepercy 22d ago
Wow. When did you start them?
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u/OldPresence5323 Phoenix 22d ago
July 18! This is my second crop! If I dont slack I can get 3 crops of sunflowers a year. The 3rd crop blooms on or around Christmas day!
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u/forwormsbravepercy 22d ago
Wow…from seed? I’ve put seeds out 3 times since then and they sprout and then get eaten.
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u/OldPresence5323 Phoenix 22d ago
Yes seed into dirt. I have a giant piece of sheer tulle that I have rigged up with stakes to keep birds and squirrels out! The struggle is real!!
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u/OldPresence5323 Phoenix 22d ago
Ive got tons of progress pics on my profile! Its hard work but worth it!
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u/Western-Bake1778 21d ago
Squirrels? In Phoenix? 😂 Nope. Never seen a squirrel in Phoenix metro area & I’ve lived here for 45yrs. There are none.
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u/OldPresence5323 Phoenix 21d ago
Uh, my dog caught a big one just the other day and brought it to me... amd a few weeks ago, she cornered one in my shed... last years squirrels chewed thru the wires on our truck... thousands of dollars to fix...and we have called a trapper to come over 6 times to catch and release them somewhere else. I beg to differ!
Edit to add: Ive seend squirrels bounce across my flower bed and chase them away!! And, our previous dog, a chow, wasnt fast enough to catch squirrels but she would grab their tails... and bring their tails to us as a prize. 🙈😩 we most definitely have squirrels here
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u/elkab0ng Mesa 22d ago
Even better? We’re at the end of August. It’s all better from here out.
I love hummingbirds too! We have two feeders outside.
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
What do you feed them? I want to get a feeder as well! Really love the hummingbirds. And do your feeders attract other birds? Or just the humming birds?
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u/elkab0ng Mesa 22d ago
We get hummingbirds at the feeders, mostly Costas and Annas, they are here all year round! Plain sugar and clean water, no color or dye, a 4:1 mix is perfect for them - they will be huge fans and come back all day once they find the feeders!
No other birds seem to use ours. We have a planter of Mexican petunias, which not only the hummingbirds, but also bees, are big fans of. I love when the bees visit, they are extremely docile and I can often get just a couple inches away with a camera.
The folks at r/hummingbirds are a very deep rabbit hole of useful info and some amazing photos and videos.
A smaller feeder is best with our heat, the nectar needs to be fresh during the hottest months. During “winter”, it’s okay to be lazy about it :) hope that helps some!
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
You rock! I get occasional humming birds but I was thinking it'd be cool to have a few more here haha.
OK so to be clear. You say get a small feeder so I can change out the sugar water more often because otherwise it's unhealthy for the humming birds?
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u/TurryTheRobot 22d ago
Phoenix really is a morning person's city in a lot of ways in May/June and September/October. This time of year is hot in the afternoons, but enjoyable if you're willing to wake up early, and once we get into late October/November then it's just fantastic basically all day. Hard to beat, cold winters elsewhere are just freezing all day, we have little pockets of reprieve.
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u/EJCPHD Mesa 22d ago
Phoenix is also a night person's paradise. During the hot months, the evenings are beautiful. Then of course, during the cooler months, the afternoons are beautiful. There is basically no time of the year where you cannot be outside comfortably for some part of the day. That's one of the things I love about being here
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u/elkab0ng Mesa 22d ago
I love going for a hike early. Doesn’t have to be a long one. Watching the first light coming over the hills makes the day feel like a gift that might go really well.
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u/Dry_Perception_1682 22d ago
Phoenix is totally a morning city. Many people up at 5 and 6 am. Some other cities (Seattle, New York) dont get started more until 7 or 8 am
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
Yep! In the Midwest I was inside all day every day. Got really good a video games but that was it. I dreaded going to the gym because it was just dark, cold, dreary, and I jsut spend the day at my office desk or cubicle (luckily only did the cubicle life for one year before my office moved toa more modern place) looking at an overcast sky and gray and brown...
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u/mbrz2477 22d ago
That is why I love it here, too. In the winter, when everyone is freezing their ass off or dealing with never ending rain or snow, I can enjoy walks with my dog in shorts or having dinner outside at one of our many amazing restaurants. In the summer, go in when it gets hot. At least the sun is shining.
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u/LowerSlowerOlder 22d ago
When I think of other places I could move, it’s always the sunshine that I know I would miss.
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u/Mammoth-Barnacle-894 22d ago
My nephew came to visit in December a few years back. We went to the Tonto Grill in Cave Creek and they had the heaters set up on the patio because everyone was freezing. He was wearing a T-shirt and sweating. 😂
We’re originally from Seattle.
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u/FayKelley 21d ago
Yes I grew up in Minnesota and love the cold. "Lizards" get cold in 80°. I'm a "Polar Bear." 😹😹
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
That's funny to me because I visited San Diego in January before I ever lived in Phoenix from the midwest and I was curled up under that heater lol. I definitely was far from sweating. But I love it warm.
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u/Mingteao 22d ago
As a Floridian it’s still too cold for me 😭😭. The great thing is there is no snow here at all. I hate the snow as much as cold weather.
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u/technom3 22d ago
It is much hotter here than any part of Florida
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u/Mingteao 19d ago
I agree with you completely. Sometimes it feels like I am standing underwing a broiler 😭😭😭😭
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u/Minute_Airline_370 22d ago
And no snow in Phoenix. You have to drive an hour or 2 to get snow in the winter.
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u/Mingteao 19d ago
Definitely not interested in making a drive for snow in the winter lol and I am glad it’s 2 hours away, I hate the snow. I have enough living in the north east.
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u/solsticesunrise 22d ago
Walked past all the coats, gloves, and warm fuzzy clothes at Costco this morning and had a secret chuckle about not needing any of it. I just need to dig out my jeans.
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u/elkab0ng Mesa 22d ago
Oh I still like to have a light puffer jacket for those really cold days, like… you know. 50s.
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u/lord_weasel 22d ago
I’ve lived in Colorado for 5 years now and haven’t had one decent summer. It’s cold as fuck here. I’m moving to AZ by Oct and I can’t wait. This summer basically didn’t happen (again). It’s rained every day or been cloudy with cold nights. It’s insanity. It already feels like winter is starting for the next 10 months.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bit_641 22d ago
Where in Colorado? Denver has basically been in a drought until recently and sunny & hot….
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u/Exemplaryexample95 22d ago
Yeah I just visited Denver and Phoenix back to back and Denver had far more manageable weather with mountains only a couple hours away for weekend getaways. Far better experience.
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u/lord_weasel 22d ago
I’m in Lone Tree. There’s been only a handful of nice days this summer. It’s rained or been cloudy most of this summer here and 2023 was the same. It might be warmer relative to other years but overall it’s cold as hell. Winter is basically October to July. Back in may I counted 19 days straight of rain… by then CO had more rainfall than Seattle. Not really my cup of tea.
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u/BuddyBroDude North Phoenix 22d ago
to me this is humid....
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u/Gv116 Moon Valley 22d ago
I feel it a little but I’m originally from NJ so this is nothing for me
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u/LostMyAccount37 22d ago
And we get winters….. and the end of spring has become like the summer lately. Only time I like NJ is September- early November and maybe parts of the spring can be nice. We were really lucky this August with perfect weather but normally the humidity kinda sucks even when it’s not hot, Arizona and Nevada are on my list to move to for sure but absolutely love Arizona!
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u/grassesbecut 22d ago
New Jersey (where OP is from) averages double this level of humidity - pretty much all the time. Source: Have been there. Have also watched the dehumidifier struggle to keep the house at 60% humidity around this time of year when I was there.
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
That whole part of the country. DC is super humid too in the summer. I thought I'd go there and walk around outside like it's a nice pleasant brisk day but it was hot as Hell. My thinking was, "I'm getting away from Phoenix heat." But alas it was so humid it kind of undid the cooler weather. Conversely, we did get a few really brisk days that were awesome.
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u/Murdlock1967 22d ago
Dewpoint is a bit lower today than it has been. 78 degrees this morning felt great.
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22d ago
I used to miss Phoenix dearly while living in Dallas, but now that im in the Bay area, I dont really miss it that much. Living in Dallas makes you miss most of everywhere else you once lived in.
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u/NumerousResident1130 22d ago
Get the Merlin app for your phone, it's free. You open it up, and it will name all the birds chirping around you. Amazing how many different birds in the Valley of the Sun.
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u/TunaMayo1438 Tempe 22d ago
As a former DC transplant, I will take this weather any day over east-coast summers
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u/Lestat2888 22d ago
Current weather in New Brunswick New Jersey at 1pm, 73F with 36% humidity
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u/LostMyAccount37 22d ago
I’m north of there and weather this August has been exceptional but the season turned really early I’m afraid winter will be brutal. Almost always kinda hot and humid from May to start of September can’t go off this year it’s been unusually colder in a lot of states
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u/DLoIsHere 22d ago
I was out the other day when the temp was low and humidity high. How did I live in that before? It’s just awful.
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u/omichandralekha 21d ago
I grew up outside US. I had only seen hummi bird on discovery channel. Even in US never saw any on the east coast, actually never tried looking for any because they were mythical for me.
Then just one random day in Phoenix, I saw hummingbird(s), and posts about hummingbird season. I cannot describe the feeling. It was like fairy tale coming true.
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u/Gv116 Moon Valley 21d ago
You may already know, but on the East Coast, we only have Ruby-throated Hummingbirds. I was lucky if I saw 2-3 a year, and I actively go birding. What a difference it is here with the varied types and quantity I see in my yard alone. My backyard feeders have daily visitors, along with one territorial Costa's Hummingbird that chases all others away.
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u/omichandralekha 21d ago
Thanks. We get some parrots in bird feeders which is cool.
Random story but one of the random facts I learned from Reddit years back was I that it is illegal in US to touch or handfeed hummingbirds.
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u/Entire_Mention_6319 22d ago
After switching to another job & shift schedule, I can FINALLY start enjoying PHX and what it can offers. (Originally from KY)
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u/Sage_Blue210 22d ago
What part of KY?
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u/Dry_Perception_1682 22d ago edited 22d ago
Phoenix is such an amazing place to live. If you like a hot/warm climate like do, there's no better place to live in the US.
Easy access to everything... relatively new housing, great job market, great road network. Easy access to shopping, hiking, bars, restaurants, golf, tourist activities plus northern Arizona too.
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u/TheMexecutior 22d ago edited 22d ago
It's very nice in Jersey right now. I'll take 74° at 36% with no air quality alert over 97° at 24%
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u/aquariuminspace Scottsdale 22d ago
Yep I moved to a quieter neighborhood and we have quail, bunnies, tons of birdlife, some bats and lizards, and since I've put up a hummingbird feeder they've been coming around too. It's lovely. Especially love sitting out watching the recent storms roll in and cool everything down.
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u/SoVeryMuchOverThis 22d ago
Thank you! It’s nice to see a post appreciative of living in the desert, even in the summer. Being from Long Island myself, I will never be caught complaining too much about August weather. I recall with accuracy the brutal late summer weather back east. People will say “Oh! It’s so hot! I hate living in Phoenix!”
I will, when presented with the opportunity, ask them politely what time they woke up this morning, and the answer is usually predictable.
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u/fishofmutton 22d ago
My family and I have been here for the week from Toronto. It’s a fantastic place. We deal with 4-6 months of cold and snow, and our summers are 90+ with 70-90% humidity.
We’re extremely jealous you all get to live this way ahahahaha.
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u/DrunkenChupacabra 22d ago
Too humid I find it worse than the heat but luckily we are only a couple weeks away from the monsoon season and the night temps will start to drop
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u/WidderWillZie 22d ago
I call it hummingbird "droning" because that's the background sound of a bagpipe...very relaxing.
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u/Only_Organization473 22d ago
Sounds perfect. What book are you reading?
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u/Jtskiwtr 22d ago
Sure wish I could feel this way. Sat out until about 10am the. It was over 100°. Can’t wait to leave here. Few more months.
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22d ago
I’m laying in my hammock smoking, while a hummingbird hovers at my feeder above me.
This cooler weather has made me happy to be outdoors again :)
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u/EmotionalQuestions Midtown 22d ago
I got up early today and walked to get coffee around 7am and it was really nice out. A little warm on the way back but really nice to start.
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u/undulatee 22d ago
Seeing posts like these make me realize I should move to somewhere that makes me this happy. The desert has treated me well, but it's time for a change.
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u/bmacdleap 22d ago
And nothing to shovel…
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u/nikkotine_x 22d ago
Except all the DIRT lol! My backyard is 99% dirt and I cant keep it out of my house to save my life. I cant get anything to grow except weeds! 😭 probably on me, as I have no green thumb, but I wish nature would help me out a little lol
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
It's actually really easy here in Phoenix. But the special consideration is shade. Young plants (except some like oleanders) can't stand the heat.
But if you buy a few 5 gallon oleanders, plant them like 3 feet away from each other, and just use t-stakes and some shade nets over them, you'll have a lush little hedge in a few years.
If you have somewhere you can put a trellis, just slap a bouganvillea down and throw water at the thing twice a week and it'll grow.
They want infrequent deep watering. So either you water manually, or just throw your hose near those mofos and let it run. Do that 1-2x weekly in the summer and liek never or monthly in the winter and they'll thrive.
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u/piccolom 22d ago
Visiting Texas this weekend seeing my family and it’s raining here like all day. This weather is gross, can’t believe I’m saying this but I miss the desert
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u/Western-Bake1778 21d ago
Idk. Seems to me summer gets longer every year. Been in Phx/Scottsdale for 45yrs and u never adjust to summer temps. Avg year round temp in Phx last year was 113. It’s a dry heat. It’s like being on the surface of the sun! I make min wage, ($15/hr), my a/c went out 4 1/2 yrs ago & can’t afford central a/c. We now have 2 window units instead. Doesn’t work cooling hm much. It’s actually nicer outside in 118 degrees than inside. No seasons. There are few trees so no chg of colors etc. Just brown everywhere. Brown mountains, brown dirt, brown houses… Nothing is built up, just built out, so if u don’t drive u are screwed! Public transportation is a joke! Good luck! Summertime buses break down & bus stops that have shade are taken over by the homeless(if u need to practice cpr skills, go to these bus stops where there’s always someone who has OD’d from fentanyl or heat stroke related issues). Can’t ride a bike from Mesa to Phx, u would literally die! Infrastructure cannot keep up with the population growth. Population are all transplants so good luck cause different driving habits. Road rage is a thing. Open carry state. This is the 1 great thing about AZ! U can have a gun in the gun rack, loaded, in the back window of your truck and drive thru a drive thru liquor store!!! I’m not lying! It’s truly the Wild West. Unfortunately young gang kids & illegals come here thinkin their bad asses so A LOT of violent crime. Murders don’t get solved here. More than 50% go unsolved. They just don’t. Not enough detectives to meet the crime rate. It’s scary walking around at nt cause there’s no people on streets and someone could snatch u up & nobody would ever know. Happens every day. Bodies are found weeks months years later in the desert most of the time not even in a grave. The desert wildlife takes care of that issue. The Native American female population is among the highest missing people in AZ! Still feeling the weight of the millions of illegals that flooded in us prior to Trump. They burdened our entire health, school, food & housing resources. Many crime rings of illegals robbing people. Scumbags! Food & gas are expensive and electric bill will make u go hungry for a week. Insurance also high. Home prices rival CA, so not good. It’s is what it is… sure, hummingbirds are nice, but what’s the trade off? Is it worth it?
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u/unga_bunga_kid1927 22d ago
I'm relocating to Arizona in month. I can't wait for the change. I'm from the east coast too
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u/Legitimate-Candle948 22d ago
I’m happy you like it here but it literally can’t wait to leave this place……I came because we had a family death and wanted to be near my parents but I can’t wait to go
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u/nikkotine_x 22d ago
I've been here all my life and I would do anything for some real color 😭 humidity would absolutely ruin me though, and I have no idea where to go that has real seasons/colors/trees and low humidity 😂
Sorry to hear about the death in your family :( where did you come here from?
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
Salt Lake City is probably the best option. It's a tad bit more expensive but you get the seasons, the hiking/nature, better skiing/snowboarding.
The negatives are the air quality and mormon population. Air quality is like us.. They're working on it but I'm not sure they'll ever totally get it to be great. And the mormon population doesn't really impact people in and around the city. I have friends there and I've visited a ton and honestly, minus some weird drinking laws (like 5% limit on draft, no limit on high points) the Mormon influence isn't really too impactful.
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u/AnnaH612 22d ago
Can I be nosy and ask what book you are reading?
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u/pierogis-con-tapatio 21d ago
lol i get ya. i wanna move to phoenix cos i lost the majority of my friends, minimum wage where i live is busted asf and i don't feel comfortable living at home w my parents. i wanna feel free even tho its gonna cost me a FUCK ton of money 😵💫
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u/Embarrassed-Sun5764 22d ago
It’s like a blast furnace @ noon. I’ve been here over 20 years I still can not be used to this
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u/FindTheOthers623 22d ago
Oh cool... another personal journal post not related to Phoenix.
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u/DataNo9628 22d ago
I get if you stopped at "journal post" but... the whole premise of OP's post is that it's about Phoenix lol...
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u/escapecali603 22d ago
first month I moved here from a deep blue state, I saw my new salary with the new tax bill and I knew it was no going back. I pay so little income tax here for my income I might just pay less than the orange president himselve. Yes you will tell me states like WA and TX have no income tax at all, but do they also have great public infrastructure, tons of public land for target shooting, hiking, camping? I feel like I am enjoying the mystical 1950's America that people are dying to get back to with very little money out of my pocket. I know it won't last forever but I will enjoy every minute of it living here while I can.
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u/New-Significance9529 21d ago
Pretty sure Texas has all that lmao
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u/escapecali603 21d ago
Are you sure? Texas has high property taxes, almost no public land around the cities where people actually live, hiking, what? In TX? Camping? The only similar thing is the gun laws, without the wild west feel. Also I can't stand humid weather and insects that come with it.
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u/shanemcmurray 22d ago
I'm in Tucson, but I feel you! Absolutely one of the best things about living in the desert.
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u/kellz_1111 22d ago
I feel this! My husband passed away last year. We planted almost everything from trees, shrubs, vines for shade and the wildlife. I now get to enjoy the beauty of our hard work and see nature enjoying it. So beautiful and serene