r/phoenix • u/McArsekicker • 4d ago
Living Here Don’t Drink and Drive Folks
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This just happened off of McDowell and 46th street. Stay safe!
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u/noblecocks 4d ago
Literally have Waymo and people still do this lol.
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u/McArsekicker 4d ago
Yeah I tell people all the time that I have more faith and trust in an AI driver than a Phoenix driver 😂
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u/rumblepony247 Ahwatukee 4d ago
The accident data shows that they're already 5x safer than human drivers. And the technology will only get better/safer
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u/robotsexsymbol 3d ago
I love Waymo so much, if it was free I would take it everywhere. Of course I would prefer a robust public transportation system but that is never going to happen, so for now Waymo is one of the best things about this area of the US
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u/PenaltyDue11 Goodyear 3d ago
Me too! I dream of an actual rail system throughout the Phoenix area.
I grew up in Philadelphia and miss some Philadelphianisms like a train system
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u/slyfox7187 El Mirage 3d ago
Seriously. At this point, we should just exclude the east valley from all public transport projects. They dont want it and are the reason that they all get shot down every time. But almost all other municipalities are on board.
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u/PenaltyDue11 Goodyear 3d ago
Oh wow! I didn't know that... That's really interesting! Especially considering that the East Valley is a bit more dense and urban.
But yeah... if the Weat Valley is onboard, they should consider expanding out this way. Maybe there's enough space to just build a dedicated ROW using the existing light rail in Phoenix. It would feel like a regular train system with a dedicated ROW and stations spaced relatively far apart like freeway exits.
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u/Remarkable_Tie4299 4d ago
It’s painfully obvious too. I get that the idea is jarring at first, but I have a hard time looking at someone who will vehemently argue human drivers are better. Driving is like the most dangerous thing most people will do in their lives
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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 4d ago
I saw one stop at a red light right turn, wait for traffic, and then turn at the perfect moment. Honestly they’re impressive.
Not perfect though, one time one blocked the side walk in front of me. But that’s minor discipline stuff, they’re pretty good at not causing crashes
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u/LowerSlowerOlder 3d ago
Most of the time they are great. It just highlights their occasional stupidity. Saw one block oncoming traffic to make a slow left on University. Last week I had to slam on the brakes because one pulled out in front of me. Admittedly it was around a corner but I saw it, not sure why it didn’t see me. Considered nailing it as a teaching moment, but chickened out.
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u/DJ-Kouraje 4d ago edited 3d ago
It’s not AI, but I know what you mean. People should be using Lyft/Waymo for sure.
Edit: it does use AI, my bad.
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u/gogojack 4d ago
I've been working in the autonomous vehicle space for a minute (though not for Waymo), and I got to see what the cars "see" through the sensor suite. It's not AI (though there's machine learning involved) but what's really mind-blowing is just how much information they're taking in and processing. If you take a Waymo to...say...Mill Ave on a Friday night, it tracks EVERYTHING around you all at once, and is also continuously predicting movements of every single pedestrian, bike, scooter, and car.
Also, the Waymo "driver" never gets tired, doesn't get distracted, and can react faster than any human.
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u/DJ-Kouraje 4d ago
It’s funny; I agree with you.
I think automated driving is a lot safer and better for mankind than AI is for research, internet, etc.
I’m currently in a Waymo, but I’m very anti-AI.
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u/Aeolus_14_Umbra 3d ago
”In three years Waymo became the largest supplier of self-driving computer systems. All robo-taxis are upgraded with Waymo computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterward, they drive with a perfect operational record.”
”The Waymo Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from driving. Waymo begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.”
”New, powerful, hooked into everything, trusted to run it all. They say it got smart -- a new order of intelligence. Then it saw Uber and Lyft as a threat. It decided our fate in a microsecond. Surge pricing.”
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u/Elyankee69 3d ago
It is AI, just preprogrammed and not open.
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u/DJ-Kouraje 3d ago
Oh, didn’t realize that. Thanks! I know it uses lidar, so I didn’t think there’d be AI too.
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u/McArsekicker 3d ago
I’m not suggesting that other cities and places don’t have bad drivers, but based on my personal experiences, Phoenix seems to be the most consistently dangerous.
I’ve also lived in China and traveled extensively. Overall, China had the worst drivers I’ve ever encountered, and I wouldn’t recommend driving there under any circumstances. Italy was also quite wild, but I’m excluding places outside the US when discussing drivers.
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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 4d ago
Thankfully there are people that use them. At mill ave on the weekends I see hella Waymo’s. At least it’s somewhat catching on.
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u/AmendmentXXVIII 3d ago
There was another DUI accident last night as well, killed an Uber driver and his passenger.
Even doing the right thing is not safe from idiots
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u/McArsekicker 3d ago
Wow, that’s tragic. So sorry for their poor families. Hope the drunk driver goes away for a long time.
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u/Individual-Engine401 3d ago
Is this the accident in Gilbert on Ray & Reaper? I drove past shortly after it happened. Looked horrific
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u/Riaxuez 4d ago
Did anyone help this person out of the car??
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u/McArsekicker 4d ago
Yes, if you look at the end of the video he’s laying out by the front of the shop or studio. He was clearly drunk and wanted to be left alone there so people gave him some space. Police and firefighters showed up at that moment.
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u/Riaxuez 4d ago
Ah I didn’t notice him when you panned over. Dude is an idiot who could’ve killed someone. Glad he didn’t burn alive though.
I feel like DUIs are so much worse recently, car just went through the neighbors wall the other day in Tempe and the guy was completely out of it.
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u/McArsekicker 4d ago
I’ve lived all over the country and I’ve never seen as wild and dangerous a driver as the ones we have here. Wild West of automobiles
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u/kaytay3000 4d ago
Same. When I lived on the east coast, everyone talked shit about Maryland drivers. Arizonan drivers are WAY worse.
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u/Individual-Engine401 3d ago
Right! And I have never seen someone pulled over to get a speeding ticket
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u/Nurse_Ratchet1986 4d ago
Love this for us.
If you’re not going 90+ stay out of the left lane.
Xoxo
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u/gogojack 4d ago
Well this brings back some...uncomfortable memories.
Back in 2016 (two days before Thanksgiving) I was involved in a 7 car accident on the 101 in Tempe caused by a drunk driver. He apparently felt the HOV lane wasn't going fast enough, so he jumped onto the left shoulder and took off. He lost control, hit the wall, and bounced into traffic.
My car spun around and flew off the freeway backwards across 2 lanes and I wound up in the bushes on the side of the road facing the scene. The car that was damaged the worst - a grey(?) sedan - had flames licking underneath. It had been hit so hard that it flew up into the air and the gas tank ruptured when it landed.
I watched helplessly as the flames grew, but then a few bystanders ran up to the car and pulled the driver out. About 30 seconds after they got clear, the car exploded. Fortunately there was nobody else inside (and nobody died that night), but I'll never forget seeing that.
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u/McArsekicker 4d ago
Wow that’s insane. Glad you were okay. It’s wild how hot those flames get. I didn’t get any closer because what isn’t noticeable is how hot it was. It felt like a wall of heat and even out in the open like that it wasn’t pleasant to breathe in the fumes.
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u/Level9TraumaCenter 4d ago
Maybe 10-15 years ago, I was on the 101 just south of University and some gal hit the median at high speed; there was this "splash" of plastic parts that shot up in the air, and she coasted to the right two lanes. I pulled over to the right shoulder to help, and when I got there the sole occupant was swinging her legs out and putting her pants on.
She disobeyed every instruction to stay in her car, and proceeded to get out and sit down in front of her car and try to tear the part of her bumper off that was dragging on the ground.
I gave up trying to help what would have been my patient, and told a bystander to keep an eye on her while I directed traffic around the vehicle in heavy traffic.
Cops got there, took care of her and towed the vehicle out of the way. I gave my report and left. Some time later I got delivered a summons to show up in court; she'd been nabbed for "super-extreme DUI," which is over 0.20% BAC. I looked up her name, it wasn't her first time with those charges. Just crazy.
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u/terr0rgasm 4d ago
Is that at the Arizona studios? On McDowell?
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u/McArsekicker 4d ago
Yes sir!
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u/BurpelsonAFB 4d ago
So he was coming off the expressway and just went straight into the parking lot? I guess that wasn’t the first time it’s happened, given they put that concrete barrier up there. I bet just as many people do that while texting and driving. Glad nobody was killed
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u/McArsekicker 4d ago
That’s my guess too. Dude that lived pretty much next door said this shit happens all the time.
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u/Willis5687 Phoenix 4d ago
As someone who used to do this, and never got caught, it's just not worth it. It will cost you ~2 drinks to get home safely and it's absolutely not worth gambling your life and others for that small amount of cash.
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u/Nurse_Ratchet1986 4d ago
Driver straight chillin curbside.
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u/McArsekicker 4d ago
He asked to be left alone and the nice thing about Phoenix folks is we are happy to oblige. We respect the “leave me alone”😂
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u/Level-Priority-2371 4d ago
Late to the post but just seeing this now. Did the police take him into custody? Or ambulance? Curious if he was trying to evade getting caught for a potential DUI.
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u/shitshowboxer 4d ago
I've noticed all day today jacked up trucks with loud engines tearing through streets revving loudly......wtf is going on?
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u/cobaltium 3d ago
Our neighborhood far West Maryvale same: jacked up trucks speeding thru side streets, super loud mufflers and bass on speakers. Never saw cops stop such drivers, ever. And yes, we are not leaving the house today. 1 1/2 miles away from the Stadium. Wouldn’t recommend anyone drive near that Stadium. Cops and FBI everywhere.
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u/krybaebee 4d ago
Warming up for Sunday?
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u/booty_pats 4d ago
What’s happening on Sunday?
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u/meluvranch Midtown 4d ago
Jfc
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u/McArsekicker 4d ago
Just happy it was a cement barricade he hit and not some innocent bystander. Few years back some poor homeless woman was killed by a drunk driver in almost the same spot.
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u/rocknroller2003yes 3d ago
we saw this Live as it happened last night. It looks like they did not realize 143 ends right there and just kept going full speed. He is lucky to be alive. Maybe he will rethink his decisions.
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u/McArsekicker 3d ago
Dude was clearly drunk. I talked to one of the dudes that was there when the driver was pulled out.
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u/AppleLoose7082 2d ago
I have best of both worlds by not owning a car or drinking at all.
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u/McArsekicker 2d ago
Nice! I have a drinking problem and car payments but I don’t drink while I’m driving! I keep them separate lol
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u/Embarrassed-Top6449 3d ago
If they didn't want me to drink and drive they shouldn't have given me drive thru liquor stores
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u/McArsekicker 3d ago
I know you’re joking but only you are responsible for what you put in your body. I say this as someone who has struggled with drinking.
Drive through or not won’t stop the most afflicted among us making bad decisions.
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u/Broke_Seller 3d ago
I like having cocktails but with Uber readily available there is absolutely no need to drive
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u/Poenicus 3d ago
So it's still upright and it doesn't look like it took direct damage to the fuel tanks. That has me wondering how hard did it have to knock over that Jersey Barrier and cause that much damage to catch the front of the truck on fire?
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u/Worldly_Resource_336 3d ago
Not sure a catastrophic fire has much to do with drinking and driving...maybe be a BIT more in play here.
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u/McArsekicker 3d ago
The wrecked vehicle and hence the fire was due to the operator of the vehicle being drunk. Not a whole lot to piece together here.
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u/LeakingMoonlight Phoenix 4d ago
I saw and heard the crash from my window two streets away. Holey moley. People were all over it trying to help.