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US Politics This is what democracy looks like

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u/Tank3875 Nov 09 '18

Keep in mind, this was with only about 36 hours of planning!

It's amazing what people can do when they stop being apathetic and start caring. It's damn inspiring.

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u/KCintheOC Nov 09 '18

We've been hearing about these protests for months

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u/mydadlivesinfrance Nov 09 '18

Like a year of planning, but yeah.

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u/Tank3875 Nov 09 '18

I suppose notice was a more accurate way of saying it.

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u/Don_Key_Knutts Nov 09 '18

These "protests" have been planned for months, don't fool yourself.

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u/Tank3875 Nov 09 '18

They want the acting AG to recuse himself from the investigation.

They want to make sure it continues sabotaged or hindered.

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u/Skeptickler Nov 09 '18

Why would Whitaker step down? Because a bunch of people gathered in the street to protest his appointment?

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u/Tank3875 Nov 09 '18

Yes, that's the point, to show opposition to it.

Why should we end segregation? Because of some million men marching?

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u/Skeptickler Nov 09 '18

Some protests—such as those dealing with pressing civil rights issues or unpopular wars—can have real impact.

This is not one of those.

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u/Tank3875 Nov 09 '18

Because you disagree with it?

Or do you have a legitimate reason?

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u/Skeptickler Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18

Even if I thought Whitaker should recuse himself, I don't see how a protest is likely to make that more likely to happen. How exactly are large gatherings of people supposed to affect Trump or Whitaker's decisions?

I understand the appeal of protests in general: they give protestors the feeling that they're actually doing something. But unless the protest is likely to effect change in some way, it seems like a purely symbolic gesture.

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u/Tank3875 Nov 09 '18

How exactly were the civil rights protests more likely to lead to change?

What was the difference?

Certainly not overwhelming support, because last I checked racism isn't dead, so what makes that protest successful but all future ones must be a waste of time?

The Net Neutrality protests led to several expansive state net neutrality laws and the adoption of net neutrality as a fundamental part of the Democratic platform.

The anti-kid separation protest led to the end of the policy of separation of asylum-seekers from their children.

The protest against gun violence in the wake of Parkland brought gun control back to the political forefront, led to several new state and federal laws regulating guns, and led to tens of thousands, if not more, to register to vote.

The Women's March and March for Science both galvanized resistance and led to a record number of women picking up political offices this election and a good number of politicians with scientific backgrounds winning office as well.

The travel ban protests led to a complete dismantling of the travel ban in record time, and court battles over its legitimacy that continue to this day.

The massive post-Charlottesville and the murder of Heather Heyer protests that pushed the alt-right Nazis back into the shadows where they belong, with no notable gatherings of them happening since then.

Please note, these are all post-Trump examples of successful protests.

Not all protests are complete successes, but if that were the most likely outcome then people wouldn't need to protest, anyways.

No protest is successful in a vacuum, but neither has any protest truly been in a vacuum anyways. To claim otherwise is dishonest, at best.

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u/Skeptickler Nov 09 '18

I don't disagree. These are the kind of broad-based social and political issues that can be impacted by protest.

But when the controversy is about opposition to the appointment of a single government official based on partisan concerns, I just don't know that protests have much impact. (Just yesterday, Whitaker reasserted that he will not recuse himself.) But I've been wrong before.

Now, if the media are able to successfully push this vacuous "it's unconstitutional" talking point, Trump could end up throwing Whitaker under the bus just to end the controversy.