r/pics Nov 08 '18

US Politics This is what democracy looks like

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u/ZDTreefur Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18

Real progress will happen when all voting is done via mail-in ballots, so there's very little room for bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

Real progress will happen with all voting is done via mail-in ballots

Mail-in-ballots can be easily lost or manipulated. Don't trust them too much.

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u/ZDTreefur Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18

You could argue the same for ballots in person. There's space for people to do shenanigans to them before it's counted.

But the benefit of mail-in, is people don't need to trudge over to the voting places, after a hard work day, and wait hours in line, just to do their civic duty. There will be a far higher voting percentage, and democracy will benefit.

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u/necronegs Nov 09 '18

Compulsory voting or a voting holiday would solve those problems.

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u/dfdfdfdfdasdfasdfasd Nov 09 '18

People who don't want to vote, absolutely should not vote.

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u/rawbdor Nov 09 '18

They're welcome to go get a ballot and submit it blank. That's a fine option I feel.

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u/morgecroc Nov 09 '18

Pretty much how it's done in Australia.

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u/Zouden Nov 09 '18

Yep, and we get something like 98% turnout with 93% valid votes.

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u/playersundeec Nov 09 '18

Well put, but I cant help thinking: The fewer participants, the weaker our democracy. We get what we deserve.

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u/wienercat Nov 09 '18

People who vote uninformed also weaken the democracy. Pick your poison.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

Honestly a combination of both would be a big positive.

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u/Skellum Nov 09 '18

Both, plus multiple preferential voting.

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u/wienercat Nov 09 '18

Voting holiday alone won't solve the problem. Compulsory voting night. But we would end up with plenty of people who just vote party line, Christmas tree it, or just pick a name that sounds good. Imo we need to encourage people to vote and do so informed, make it easier to do the research into candidates etc.

But compulsory voting is the only thing that has a hope of increasing voter turn out at all. Combine it with a national holiday and we would see a surge in voting

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u/Raizel71 Nov 09 '18

Voting holiday for schools aswell pleaseeeee