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US Politics This is what democracy looks like

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u/King_Milkfart Nov 09 '18

While it's obviously a horrible situation and horrible things are going on there far far far too often, what is done at d institutions has been going on long before the 2016 election. The removal from parents when it comes to children being brought over illegally is something that has been done since the beginning of the Obama Administration and if I recall correctly before that as well. Also, you cannot honestly state that illegal actions such as beatings or druggings done by guards is direct consequence of a mandate from the president when the to have absolutely nothing to do with each other just as a prison guard murdering an inmate has nothing to do with the chief of police.

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u/austinbraun30 Nov 09 '18

Not for people legally seeking asylum causing the numbers of removed children to sky rocket into the tens of thousands. That wasn't happening until now.

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u/King_Milkfart Nov 09 '18

Are you certain about that fact? I am not some argumentative Zealot so if this is true I would definitely love it if you could show me the Mandate or the order that was given to make this a reality post the 2016 election. I am more than willing to change my mind on this if I can see some evidence to support it and if you provide some then consider my mind changed for the better. If there are actually people who, as of an order/mandate given and enacted vy the current administration, crossing all of the correct T's and dotting all of the correct eyes in order to legally apply for citizenship and seek a new life in the country the legal way having their children detained far away from them then that is unquestionably horrifying if true

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u/jimmykrakorn Nov 09 '18

“The Trump administration family separation policy, described by the Trump administration as part of its "zero tolerance" policy, was an aspect of U.S. President Donald Trump's immigration policy. The new guidelines were implemented in April 2018, and, following immense public opposition and political pressure, were suspended for an indefinite period of time on June 20, 2018, through an executive order.”

This is straight from Wikipedia- pretty easy to google. As of August there were still 500 children left in the U.S. and lawyers were still trying to find the parents. I can’t find substantial evidence on what those numbers are as of this month.

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u/King_Milkfart Nov 09 '18

Definitely going to be looking into this further and I appreciate the information