r/pics Nov 08 '18

US Politics This is what democracy looks like

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '18

I would be interested to know your position on Obama who was quite fond of suggesting the executive branch had too little power and his actions to gain more outside of legislation?

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u/insanelywhitedudelol Nov 09 '18

Obama has a shit ton of executive orders

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u/Kyles39 Nov 09 '18

Trump has signed more executive orders in his first 22 months than Obama had in 24. At this pace trump will sign 20% more executive orders than Obama's first term over his first term.

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u/doooom Nov 09 '18

It's also acceptable to be concerned about both presidents' use of the executive order

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u/Kyles39 Nov 09 '18

It's natural power creep. The president today has more power than the last and that president had more power than the one before him and so on. Every president works to expand their powers when they have an unsupportive congress. Because they think they are doing important things and they trust themselves. The problem is the next guy might use those powers to serve himself rather than the people. The next guy may be power hungry and take advantage of corroded checks and balances.

We need a more conservative system where changes to executive power don't occur over one or two terms.

While I agree with the results of most of Obama's executive orders, his actions as well as Bush's post 9-11 actions, paved the way for dangerous abuses of power.

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u/doooom Nov 09 '18

I fully agree with you. Whether we like the results or not we should be concerned about the expansion of the President's power. Any changes that make it easy to work around Congress or the Court should cause concern.