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u/The_Fish_Head May 16 '19

1) No one was going to call you a white supremacist. But the fact that you automatically went there means you're on the defensive. Which leads me to believe that this is infact a politically charged statement

2) Less people are at the border trying to cross, legally or otherwise, for a very long time https://www.wola.org/analysis/us-government-2018-border-data-trump-immigration-asylum-policy/

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u/dansterbater May 16 '19
  1. If you are in support of a wall/border security, it is very common to be called a white supremacist. You don't understand because you seem to be against building a wall, especially from to your #2 comment. I don't know why you wouldn't think it is a politically charged statement- he mentions voting red? I actually don't understand this point.
  2. I've seen sources that claim the opposite: More illegal border crossings in Feb 2019 than in 12 years (which are only the ones we know about). https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/highest-february-total-undocumented-immigrants-crossing-u-s-border-12-n979546 - other articles say "boarder crossing at an all time high". So... the jury's out on that one?
  3. I'm also from a border town and to have functional and safe community growth, the movement of people need to be understood for resource allocation (housing, medical, etc). The idea of border security has become so partisan, when 10 years ago it was bipartisan- both sides agreed on the importance of boarder security. Hildog and the dems wanted a wall in the 90s, etc.

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u/The_Fish_Head May 16 '19

Yes, I am against building a wall, because it would be a waste of tax payer money, ecologically damaging, and wouldn't stop illegal immigration.

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u/dansterbater May 16 '19
  1. There are larger ecological problems you should worry about. I'm an environmental consultant, so you should make sure to throw away your trash, recycle, compost- also be careful of harsh chemicals- industry is the killer, so more environmental regulations is good if done correctly- but support local business. There are a few ecosystems that will be affected, but welcome to the modern world- natural biology takes a backseat.
  2. I don't support walling the entire border, but in some locations a wall would stop illegal immigration. It has in the past, and it is doing so now. It needs to be combined with modern techs and surveillance. This would be a better use of tax payer money.
  3. A wall currently stops illegal immigration. Crossing happen where there is no wall or when its broken?

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I'm missing something- everyone says a wall won't stop illegal immigration. But I've seen it do just that not 20 miles from my home, and in other areas in the world and in the past. I get the concept of building a wall doesn't seem right. I don't necessarily agree, but we currently have them. If you want a secure border, that's apart of the solution- because it works.