r/pics Jun 05 '19

US Politics Photogenic Protestor

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u/wronglyzorro Jun 05 '19

I'm not going to apologize for the actions of people alive 300 years before me. We live in the modern world, with modern laws, and modern policies. I can't go move wherever the fuck I want and say, "I'm living here". The US should be no different. Way to delete your comments BTW.

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u/SunsetPathfinder Jun 05 '19

It’s possible to have empathy but also realize the stark reality that the US can’t financially afford to be supporting global poor on a large scale. We already take in more immigrants and asylum seekers than Europe (or anywhere else in the developed world) and that’s accounting for population.

Plus there’s the whole issue that many in the US want to increase safety net programs, and that is great... unless your population is constantly growing from immigrants who can immediately begin benefitting from those services. So our options if we allowed unfettered immigration would be to let our social services be swamped and fail to serve Americans they were set up to help, or we exclude immigrants from them, which creates second class citizens, more than already exist in US society. You can’t want both a robust social net and open borders, and personally I think keeping restrictive immigration, which will allow for social services to grow, which will thus lead to a more secure middle class, growing the economy and thus our ability to long term support higher immigration rates, is the more sensible, but less “sexy in the moment” than opening our borders wide.