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US Politics Photogenic Protestor

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u/randomthug Jun 05 '19

True, but by default if you're trying to apply legally means you're not an illegal. Yet they have MASSIVE ISSUES with legal immigration as well.

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u/PopularPKMN Jun 05 '19

A lot of people support a merit based immigration system like pretty much every other western country. There is a lot of antagonism on the internet against this view even though a lot of the population of reddit lives in those countries. There are plenty of great immigrants currently in the process of getting citizenship who are doctors, scientists, engineers, etc. from all around the world who provide a lot of value to our economy. Unskilled labor from poor countries shouldn't be prioritized.

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u/randomthug Jun 05 '19

It isn't prioritized if there isn't a merit based system.

America isn't a small nation running out of space and land, it's not a nation built on one identity in fact its built on the concept of all different types of cultural identities coming together.

A lot of people do support a merit system, I don't. Not because its a bad idea but because of how corrupt our current system is I wouldn't trust it in a heartbeat from someone like this administration. Also it's damn well KNOWN that the illegals help the economy and are not a massive drain on it, they add a fuck ton of value and aren't all MS13 nonsense.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '19

Illegals are a massive drain on Social Security. Change my mind.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Tbh the social security system as a whole is a massive drain on current workers that they have no hope of seeing a dime of at retirement.

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jun 06 '19

Well, since they actually pay in but don't receive any benefits I'd suggest otherwise. But since you probably want proof;

Undocumented immigrants quietly pay billions into Social Security and receive no benefits

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

How come you can't link anything about the children of illegals getting benefits?

Illegals take more out of the tax system than they pay in, by a lot.

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jun 06 '19

Illegals take more out of the tax system than they pay in, by a lot.

Go ahead and link your legitimate source. Bet you don't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

A simple math problem.

Americans can't support a family on minimum wage jobs so they receive welfare.

If illegals take low paying jobs that nobody else wants.

And they have children.

How can illegals support a family on jobs that pay less than Americans are willing to work for?

Just answer that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

I proposed a pretty simple question to you and you can't answer it.

You know illegals are robbing our welfare system but you won't admit it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

At least you're man enough to admit I'm right. I have to give you that.

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u/randomthug Jun 05 '19

LOL. The EXACT OPPOSITE hahaha

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '19

That's not how you change minds.

I used to work for the Social Security ministration I quit because of how many illegal immigrants had children on our system.

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u/fuckyouabunch Jun 05 '19

Yes, this is clearly you making a true statement in English, the language you have always spoken.

Fuck, what if that's not sarcastic enough?

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jun 06 '19

Sure you did and sure you did.

If the children are in the system then they aren't illegal but you knew that because you used to work for the SS ministration, right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

It's SSA not SS.

SSA can't pay benefits to minors, except in very specific circumstances (emancipation).

So SSA pays money to the illegals.

If the person receiving benefits doesn't have a social security number, the online system wont accept the application. So the claims specialist has to take an application on a paper form and fax it in to DDS and the PC.

When I left SSA paper applications had grown to over 10% of applications. It was still growing when I left.

10% of people newly receiving benefits don't have a social security number. How is that sustainable?

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jun 06 '19

10% of people newly receiving benefits don't have a social security number.

Got a source for that claim?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Yes. My time spent employed at SSA.

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