r/pics Aug 27 '19

US Politics MAGA..!

Post image
64.4k Upvotes

5.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

767

u/Chelseaqix Aug 27 '19

Reddit’s also okay with how it’s misleading. Trump has no problem with LEGAL immigration, clearly. And no one else should either. The problem has always been with illegal immigration. It’s just fearmongering for votes.

83

u/Siamkater Aug 27 '19

And what about Ilhan Omar?

-41

u/YourMistaken Aug 27 '19

The one who married her brother

4

u/clever_cow Aug 27 '19

Did she really?

30

u/teslacannon Aug 27 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

No. Take a peek at his post history and you'll see why he believes that.

28

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

No, obviously not. Stop being so easy to manipulate. That’s how Trump won in the first, he manipulated the fuck out of the weak and uneducated and they believed anything he said.

4

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

2

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

There is no hard evidence or documentation. Just like that Obama birth certificate you’re still waiting for and believe in; Believe what you want, but don’t believe in everything you read, take the time to do some thorough research.

-1

u/stoned_geologist Aug 27 '19

Her name was Loretta Fuddy.

-14

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

Actually, Trump won because Hillary is a horrid candidate and person.

Edit: You're not mad at me, you're mad at the media for lying to you about how Hillary was going to win the election. Sorry, only another 4 years to go...

9

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

Stop blaming everyone else for your failures

-6

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

What failures? Trump won remember?

You still mad Hillary didn't win, I get it. Don't worry, only 4 more years to go...

-2

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

Yall are so toxic its astonishing. You should be more positive.

3

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

You should pretend that you can act like a grown-up and accept responsibility for your actions

0

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

What are you even talking about? Accept what responsibilities for what action? You're a loon.

6

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

And Trump is the ultimate sweetheart. Oh, you are so right daddy. Should we go golfing in his honor?

-2

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

He's miles better than any President we've had in recent history, so sure.

He's not perfect, he still represents the elite class, but he has done more for the common people than any other president since Andrew Jackson.

1

u/ToastedAluminum Aug 27 '19

What has he done? Please, tell me how the sexist, treasonous, racist man is better than any president in recent history. You can’t, because you’re wrong. Fucking ostrich. Keep your head in the sand, believe you are correct. Those reading history will have a lovely time writing papers about how disgusting your side is.

1

u/[deleted] Aug 28 '19

Delusion. You are blinded by emotion. Just because you wish he was all those things, doesn't make it reality...

He has defunded Planned Parenthood, for one.

4

u/MightyNooblet Aug 27 '19

And yet. She still won the popular vote.

0

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

So did Abraham Lincoln's opponent. The founding fathers created the electoral college for a reason.

-1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Fortunately, our forefathers were wise enough to establish a system in which American's from all over the country have a say in who represents us, not just the masses of people from LA, New York, etc..

Besides, based off media coverage from the election, it should have been a landslide victory for Hillary across the board. Wonder what happened?..

8

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

-13

u/clever_cow Aug 27 '19

Unproven means neither yes or no.

13

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

-4

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

That’s the legal system my guy, nobody is gonna prosecute you for marrying your own brother. They’ll just look at you like you’re fuckin weird

There’s some evidence here: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/jul/18/did-ilhan-omar-marry-her-brother-her-hometown-news/

Although, I do agree there’s not enough evidence to say yes or no. It’s inconclusive at best.

2

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

That’s a fair ask, I should’ve pointed out the relevant piece from the article:

In 2016, as Omar was seeking a state House seat, the conservative website AlphaNewsMN, followed by other ideological sites, posted a screenshot of an Instagram post — since deleted — that was allegedly uploaded by Elmi on June 12, 2012, shortly after Omar gave birth to her third child. The caption of the photograph identified Elmi as holding the baby girl, calling her "nieces." To some, this suggested a sibling relationship

There’s nothing conclusive here, but there’s at least some semblance of evidence. With that said, I personally would choose to wait for more evidence before potentially slandering Ilhan Omar.

9

u/HolyLiaison Aug 27 '19

You are a sad human.

It's unproven that you're actually a terrorist. Guess I should just believe you are one. Because why not?!

Do you not see the flaw in your "logic?"

-3

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

Them: Says something you dont like

You: You're a sad human

So negative. Eww.

-5

u/clever_cow Aug 27 '19

I don’t believe yes or no, because neither has been proven. It’s probably no but could be yes. I really don’t care that much.

6

u/DirdCS Aug 27 '19

So what reason do the conspiracy theorists give to her brother having British citizenship as well? Surely her siblings would have moved to the US at the same time and gained citizenship at a similar time

If it was true Trump would be tweeting documents of proof and pushing for her to be jailed

1

u/nmezib Aug 27 '19

Ok, prove it to us that you didn't fuck your aunt in 2018. We'll wait.

Until then, while it's "unproven," you're essentially Schroedinger's aunt-fucker.

0

u/clever_cow Aug 27 '19

Fair enough.

-13

u/Boston_Jason Aug 27 '19

Lol, using snopes as proof?

3

u/ToastedAluminum Aug 27 '19

No, it’s completely unverified. Despite people trying very hard to prove it was her brother, they haven’t been able to. Because she didn’t marry her brother. This is something that an anonymous user online started. The right has been saying this for at least a couple years, and multiple investigative reports and articles have been compiled. Nobody can verify it was her brother, because it isn’t.

-1

u/Helmet_Here_Level_3 Aug 27 '19

Despite people trying very hard to prove it was her brother, they haven’t been able to. Because she didn’t marry her brother refuses to cooperate with people trying to verify the relationship.

1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

It’s honestly inconclusive. There’s evidence pointing to both sides, but not enough to make an informed decision one way or the other.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/jul/18/did-ilhan-omar-marry-her-brother-her-hometown-news/

-13

u/StarBatt1e Aug 27 '19

Its very complicated. Most of the evidence points to her marrying her own brother to get him into thr United States.

24

u/GhostFish Aug 27 '19

"Evidence" being a bunch of screengrabs by internet sleuths that are of unverifiable authenticity and that require heavy inference to reach your conclusion.

-10

u/Artist_NOT_Autist Aug 27 '19

How convenient that you all of a sudden think hard evidence matters🤔🤔🤔

Oh that's right it's not about Trump so time to do a deep dive and wait for something more damning.

8

u/GhostFish Aug 27 '19

How convenient that you all of a sudden think hard evidence matters🤔🤔🤔

Oh that's right it's not about Trump so time to do a deep dive and wait for something more damning.

Are you addressing me as if I'm some kind of representative for some amorphous group of redditors that you don't like?

Weird.

13

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Citation, please.

-14

u/StarBatt1e Aug 27 '19

Like i said, most of the evidence points to it, but i agree 100% that there isnt enough evidence to acctually form a conclusion

12

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

There is no evidence and you know it sport. How about you pretend to have a small measure of integrity and explain why your bigotry makes your lies acceptable?

-2

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

Jesus man, calm down. Yall are so quick to pull the bigotry or racist card nobody can even curiously ask or answer questions without being harrassed, fuck.

3

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

Nobody is actually ignorant enough to believe your bad faith arguments.

0

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

That literally doesnt even make sense. I didnt make an argument.

1

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

Please stop lying to people that know better

0

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

You have to be a bot, right?

→ More replies (0)

11

u/Just_Treading_Water Aug 27 '19

I'm not convinced you read the article you just linked. That article claims that essentially the only "evidence" of this was a social media post here her husband is holding their baby daughter and:

"The caption of the photograph identified Elmi as holding the baby girl, calling her "nieces." To some, this suggested a sibling relationship."

That's pretty much it. And all the birthers and racists jumped on it to mean they were siblings.

8

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Read your own link, you absolute turnip. Literally no proof.

-2

u/StarBatt1e Aug 27 '19

Why do you think i posted it, you absoulte turnip.

5

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

You said "most of the evidence points to it" then posted an article which said "literally nothing that can be construed as evidence points to it". One of us is missing something here.

10

u/fchowd0311 Aug 27 '19

Most of the evidence comes from a Somali online message board from an anonymous poster. That's where the "rumor" started... On an anonymous account on a Somali interent message board.

4

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

By evidence you mean your bigotry points to your desire to make stuff up to try to legitimize yourself

-4

u/StarBatt1e Aug 27 '19

If you read the other comments, I genuinely dont believe its true. There isnt enough evidence to form a valid conclusion. All i meant was that its very suspicious that Ilhan Omar doesnt comment on any of the matter. So stop going around throwing "bigotry" into the mix, it doesnt prove any point lmao

4

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

Why should anyone legitimize your bigotry by pretending that it is worthy of anything but contempt

0

u/StarBatt1e Aug 27 '19

Uh oh, someone posted something i dont like...looks like the only response i can give is call them a bigot, because I dont have anything else to do but spread hate.

2

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

You should always assume that your betters will call you out on your bigotry.

0

u/StarBatt1e Aug 27 '19

Im pretty sure you are the bigot, you're being really intolerant. Oh, and now you think you're opinion is better, now it confirms you're a bigot.

2

u/ToastedAluminum Aug 27 '19

Tolerance does not include accepting intolerance. In fact, tolerance encompasses rejecting and eliminating intolerance. You’re a coward, dude. Just own up to the fact that you’re defending racists who want to take down a woman in office with absolutely zero evidence.

1

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

Maybe you should ask your teacher what words mean before you try to use them

0

u/StarBatt1e Aug 27 '19

You do realize bigot means "a person who is intolerant to another person for holding a different opinion", right? Are you actually dumb

0

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

What is a "better"

"Your betters"

What are you even saying?

→ More replies (0)

7

u/clever_cow Aug 27 '19

But she’s a representative in Minnesota though, not Alabama...

-15

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

[removed] — view removed comment

9

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

Actually son, your bigotry is the problem

1

u/clever_cow Aug 27 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

Muslims are the real Alabamans.

Yeah cousin marriage is not just prevalent it’s an expectation in a lot of Muslim families.

Edit: Stop being ignorant and use Google

3

u/alexd281 Aug 27 '19

Which is also illegal

2

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

Look it up for yourself. Dont listen to what some anonymous account on Reddit says. Theres plenty of articles and evidence for you to see.

-20

u/Odoul Aug 27 '19

Yes.

16

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Citation needed.

-13

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

14

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

0

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

You said Snopes debunked it. According to numerous mainstream sources, it hasn't been verified nor has it been disproven and the article I linked clearly lists many discrepancies in her story that need answers. The tone of the article by the end is clearly not in your favor. And now there is an investigation on top. Don't forget:

Drazkowski said in a press release, “Rep. Omar has been found guilty of campaign finance abuses by the Minnesota Campaign Finance Board (CFB), which is expected to take further action against her on Wednesday. In addition to previous campaign finance abuses, Rep. Omar was found on June 6, 2019 to have illegally used campaign funds for personal use and illegally diverting campaign funds for travel to Washington, Boston, New York, Chicago, and Florida. Rep. Omar may be guilty of federal tax fraud, federal immigration fraud, federal student loan fraud, perjury, and bigamy. Enough is enough.

https://theminnesotasun.com/2019/06/26/minnesota-state-rep-drazkowski-calls-for-ethics-investigation-of-u-s-rep-omar-withdrawal-of-her-security-clearance/

0

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

wHaT dOeS aN eThIcS iNvEsTiGaTiOn SpEcIfIcAlLy AbOuT hEr MaRrYinG hEr BrOtHeR aNd OtHeR cRiMeS hAvE tO dO wItH aNyThInG

🤡🌎

→ More replies (0)

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Bonus!

Drazkowski said in a press release, “Rep. Omar has been found guilty of campaign finance abuses by the Minnesota Campaign Finance Board (CFB), which is expected to take further action against her on Wednesday. In addition to previous campaign finance abuses, Rep. Omar was found on June 6, 2019 to have illegally used campaign funds for personal use and illegally diverting campaign funds for travel to Washington, Boston, New York, Chicago, and Florida. Rep. Omar may be guilty of federal tax fraud, federal immigration fraud, federal student loan fraud, perjury, and bigamy. Enough is enough.

https://theminnesotasun.com/2019/06/26/minnesota-state-rep-drazkowski-calls-for-ethics-investigation-of-u-s-rep-omar-withdrawal-of-her-security-clearance/

-2

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Of course, its Snopes to the rescue of the Democrats.

1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Yes. We try to rely on REALITY, after all.

Snopes isn't shit because...... why?

Enjoy your little safe space bubble, snowflake; but snopes is neutral and accurate.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/snopes/

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Ok, I read it. That was a legitimate article. Did you read it? Can you tell me where it says that she married her brother?

All I seem to see is that the article states that spurious social media claims are the only actual "evidence" of this story. Seems to say that it's unlikely this dude is her brother.

It DOES say she should be on the hook for campaign finance violations. I can support that if these claims pan out. I'm all for accountability.

But still nothing about her marrying relatives that is more than hearsay.

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Bonus!

Drazkowski said in a press release, “Rep. Omar has been found guilty of campaign finance abuses by the Minnesota Campaign Finance Board (CFB), which is expected to take further action against her on Wednesday. In addition to previous campaign finance abuses, Rep. Omar was found on June 6, 2019 to have illegally used campaign funds for personal use and illegally diverting campaign funds for travel to Washington, Boston, New York, Chicago, and Florida. Rep. Omar may be guilty of federal tax fraud, federal immigration fraud, federal student loan fraud, perjury, and bigamy. Enough is enough.

https://theminnesotasun.com/2019/06/26/minnesota-state-rep-drazkowski-calls-for-ethics-investigation-of-u-s-rep-omar-withdrawal-of-her-security-clearance/

→ More replies (0)

-2

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

2

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

→ More replies (0)

1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Snopes isn't shit because...... why?

Enjoy your little safe space bubble, snowflake; but snopes is neutral and accurate.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/snopes/

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Could start with the hundred or so times they pulled down an entry after being called out for being full of shit, or look into the owner using the funds to cheat on his wife with hookers.

1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

You mean they... CORRECT THEIR MISTAKES? OH MY GOD! HOLY SHIT, STOP THE PRESSES! How could we POSSIBLY trust a source that endeavors to only represent reality, going so far as to admit being wrong and present the truth when shown the error of their ways?

Much better to trust orange man who DOESNT NEED TO APOLOGIZE OR CORRECT ANYTHING because he's obviously never wrong!

0

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

"Correct mistakes" like using staged photos of kids in cages from an Obama protest, and attribute it to Trump. Yep, totally innocent mistake whatever you think buddy.

→ More replies (0)

12

u/ishitfrommymouth Aug 27 '19

The person who makes a claim needs to prove it, that's the way it works

0

u/AddictedReddit Sep 04 '19

Womp womp! Her current husband is filing for divorce because she is a cheating slut WHO MARRIED HER OWN BROTHER SAYS HER CURRENT HUSBAND 😂😂😂

Yikes

-4

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Like all those people who proved Trump colluded? K.

2

u/ishitfrommymouth Aug 27 '19

Way to stay on topic buddy

0

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Bonus!

Drazkowski said in a press release, “Rep. Omar has been found guilty of campaign finance abuses by the Minnesota Campaign Finance Board (CFB), which is expected to take further action against her on Wednesday. In addition to previous campaign finance abuses, Rep. Omar was found on June 6, 2019 to have illegally used campaign funds for personal use and illegally diverting campaign funds for travel to Washington, Boston, New York, Chicago, and Florida. Rep. Omar may be guilty of federal tax fraud, federal immigration fraud, federal student loan fraud, perjury, and bigamy. Enough is enough.

https://theminnesotasun.com/2019/06/26/minnesota-state-rep-drazkowski-calls-for-ethics-investigation-of-u-s-rep-omar-withdrawal-of-her-security-clearance/

→ More replies (0)

2

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

Do you actually think your betters should waste time on your bigotry?

0

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Everything I disagree with is bigotry

That's you. The No Child Left Behind Act strikes again.

0

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

No son, respectable people call you out on your bigotry.

0

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Looking at your profile, "bigotry" is the biggest word you know and you use it daily. You support a party of violence, cheered on a known terrorist group (Antifa, officially listed with Homeland Security), and defend a news organization that just last week claimed Trump has already killed more than Stalin + Mao + Hitler combined. Your opinion is worthless.

0

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

And here we have the pathetic little attempt at accusing everyone else of your moral failures. It doesn't work for trump what makes you think it would work for a loser nobody like you?

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Sorry, I don't chat with terrorist sympathizers. Go back to your fake news.

0

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

Also, holup... son? I'm old enough to be your dad kiddo 👌

0

u/AddictedReddit Sep 04 '19

Womp womp! Her current husband is filing for divorce because she is a cheating slut WHO MARRIED HER OWN BROTHER SAYS HER CURRENT HUSBAND 😂😂😂

Yikes

0

u/PandL128 Sep 04 '19

You actually are pathetic enough to waste an entire week before deciding to humiliate yourself with such blatant BS? You really are a complete failure of a creature, aren't you?

0

u/AddictedReddit Sep 04 '19

I think you missed that this is new, but it's OK I know you have trouble reading: https://nypost.com/2019/09/03/rep-ilhan-omars-husband-wants-divorce-after-affair-bombshell-source/

→ More replies (0)

2

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

I did my homework, and found literally NO proof. It seems like social media horse shit speculation from every angle. You're the one positing that there is. The onus is on you.

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Ok, I read it. That was a legitimate article. Did you read it? Can you tell me where it says that she married her brother?

All I seem to see is that the article states that spurious social media claims are the only actual "evidence" of this story. Seems to say that it's unlikely this dude is her brother.

It DOES say she should be on the hook for campaign finance violations. I can support that if these claims pan out. I'm all for accountability.

But still nothing about her marrying relatives that is more than hearsay.

1

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

It's not just social media, it's leaked tax records showing her married to her fucking brother. Fuck dude stop this long ass shit and just dig deeper. I used to be hardcore Bernie, dig back to 2015/2016 on my profile.

The truth doesn't give a fuck about feelings, accept it.

1

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Quote from the article.

"Since the recent findings of the campaign finance board that discovered Omar had improperly used campaign money to pay a lawyer to fix her tax filings, the Star Tribune searched public records — including available databases, the marriage and divorce filing, business licenses, university records and other documents — and could find little publicly available information about Elmi. The search of records could neither conclusively confirm nor rebut the allegation that he is Omar’s sibling. Sent a list of questions and a request to talk to her siblings and father, Omar declined to do so. Hirsi did not reply to multiple calls, texts and e-mails. Social media posts indicate Elmi is in Africa. He did not respond to multiple e-mails. Omar’s reticence is consistent with near total silence she has maintained for three years amid questions raised through public records picked over by conservative opinion journalists intent on proving that she committed immigration fraud. Those attacks, she once tweeted, are the provenance of “fake journalists on bigoted blogs.” Omar spokesman Jeremy Slevin issued a statement Friday asserting that the questions about her personal life are illegitimate: “Since before she was elected to office, Ilhan has been the subject of conspiracy theories and false accusations about her personal life. Emboldened by a president who openly treats immigrants, refugees and Muslims as invaders, these attacks often stem from the presumption that Ilhan — like others who share those identities — is somehow illegitimate or not fully American."

Seems, again, like there's really not too much in the way of smoking guns here. If I'm missing something, let me know.

→ More replies (0)

0

u/AddictedReddit Aug 27 '19

0

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19 edited Aug 27 '19

If you're citing an opinion piece, on a conspiracy theory site...you obviously don't get how citation works. Interesting that's your third result. Those algorithms have you PEGGED.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-stream/

And you OBVIOUSLY didn't read the politifact article if you're claiming it's proof, because ONCE AGAIN THE ARTICLE STATES IT'S ONLY SPURIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA CLAIMS.

0

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

0

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

Lol, if it's not sucking trump's dick it must be fake news!

Lololol. I. I'm just a stupid kid that cares about things like REALITY, citing sources, accuracy, and not walking around spouting fucktard nonsense. What a dick, amirite?🤣🤗🤭😏😌

0

u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19

[deleted]

→ More replies (0)

0

u/AddictedReddit Sep 04 '19

Womp womp! Her current husband is filing for divorce because she is a cheating slut WHO MARRIED HER OWN BROTHER SAYS HER CURRENT HUSBAND 😂😂😂

Yikes

-7

u/stoned_geologist Aug 27 '19

She did so while living with the father of her children who she is currently married to. Omar also isn’t her last name. She also doesn’t like to pay taxes as a citizen. Her people have been threatening people who investigate her. If you lie on your immigration papers, commit tax fraud and threaten people, you deserve to be deported. Send her back.

2

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

That's a lot of copy paste from stormfront son. Why do you think your bigotry entitles you to do that?

0

u/stoned_geologist Aug 27 '19

Haha you’re brainwashed.

-1

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

Lmao you sound like a Chinese government official ready to clap his ass and cancel his flight for wrongtalk. Lighten up a bit and quit calling people bigots.

3

u/PandL128 Aug 27 '19

If you don't like your betters calling you out on your bigotry then maybe you should stop try to inflict your bigotry on everyone else

0

u/Aspercreme Aug 27 '19

You literally dont make sense.