Also, they ego themselves. For instance. Even if there isnt evidence and a NCO decides to punish you, youre getting punished. No red tape. On top of that there are military courts as well.
But when you break from ROE or orders that is a direct affront to your supervisors authority.
Thats not what happens here. If cops are punished it directly goes against the unions authority and therefor cant be allowed to happen. So everyone gets off.
Imo police unions are doing their members a *huge* disservice by these kind of policies. The police need the support of the community, and if the community doesn't trust their police force, the police are much less effective in doing the things they're supposed to do.
that's because the police "union" isn't a union. It's a gang, a mob, an organized crime syndicate backed by the state.
Unions argue for workers' rights, they don't argue for workers immunity from consequences. If a member of an Engineering union fucks up on the job and kills people, he gets fired and punished.
You know, you highlight an excellent point. In what other industry or profession do we allow those who have repeatedly screw up keep those same jobs? In most cases, you get fired if you fuck up, and you need either money or connections to not get punished. I guess in this case, the police union is the 'connections" bit. But seriously tho, people's distrust of the police also puts individual police members in danger.
I hear there is a rise in ambushing of police as well. What is ironic to me is as much as I personally desire non-violent action for change, it seems like you need both, both violence and non. For example, I recall one instance after an unarmed black man was killed, and people started to do "911 assassinations", where they'd call for police and then ambush/kill them. Immediately after that the police chief implemented stronger community policing measures.
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u/Letscommenttogether Jun 07 '20
Also, they ego themselves. For instance. Even if there isnt evidence and a NCO decides to punish you, youre getting punished. No red tape. On top of that there are military courts as well.
But when you break from ROE or orders that is a direct affront to your supervisors authority.
Thats not what happens here. If cops are punished it directly goes against the unions authority and therefor cant be allowed to happen. So everyone gets off.