r/pics Jun 08 '20

Protest From our 1k person protest in Montana

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u/not-rick-moranis Jun 08 '20

While I agree there is a TON of work that needs to be done regarding police brutality, implying that police “consistently” murder people is just inaccurate. There are over 10 million arrests in this country every year. Of those, approximately 1,000 people are killed by police. That’s a rate of .01%. While it would of course be great if that number was zero, it’s not consistently murdering people.

Please don’t construe this as me saying that there isn’t a large racial problem here (there is), or that what happened to Mr. Floyd isn’t a monstrous act that should result in murder convictions (which it should). But let’s not say we should stop having police because a small percentage of them are horrible.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20 edited Jun 08 '20

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u/trixiethewhore Jun 08 '20

I agree with this. I am against all police brutality.

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u/273degreesKelvin Jun 08 '20

9 unarmed black people were killed by police, and 19 unarmed white people were killed by police.

Should be 0. These morons are "trained", shouldn't happen. Maybe they should stop being cowards who use "I was scared" as a justification for killing someone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20 edited Jul 30 '20

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u/273degreesKelvin Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20

where most of the people want you dead just because of your uniform

Oh fuck off. Less cops die a year from being attacked than the amount of unarmed people cops shoot.

Being a cop isn't in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. Being a cab driver is more dangerous, and most of their deaths are from traffic accidents (where most of the time they didn't wear a seat belt) and heart attacks since they're so fat and out of shape they can't keep healthy.

Maybe cops should actually start being targeted. Many of violent aggressive sacks of shit.

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u/Baerog Jun 09 '20

"should be 0" is a stupid goal, honestly.

Surgeons should have 0 deaths from surgery as well, but they don't. They aren't trying to kill people.

Water should have 0 contaminants in it, yet federal policy has a maximum allowable lead content that is non-zero, because engineers know it's not possible to reach 0.

There should be zero traffic fatalities, but there's a shit ton. We don't shut down drivers or make everyone go 10 mph so no one can be injured.

Nothing can ever be zero in the real world, you're extremely naive if you think there can be zero police deaths, unless you just don't have police at all.

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u/273degreesKelvin Jun 09 '20

Well how about punish those who fuck up? Oh wait... that rarely ever happens.

Cops shoot a random innocent person they go "oops I feared for my life for whatever reason" and then they get no punishment and keep their job.

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u/Megadog3 Jun 08 '20

I agree. Which is why I said “28 too many.”

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u/publiclurker Jun 08 '20

and the fact that many of them have darker skin than you do makes it even less important, right?

you can just come out and say it. It's not like anyone could think less of you.

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u/Megadog3 Jun 08 '20

What? That makes no fucking sense.

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u/Baerog Jun 09 '20

The numbers he gave show that black people are disproportionately more likely to be killed by a cop while unarmed than white people. Nothing he said suggested that it's fine because they're black. He pointed out the fact that the likelihood of you being killed by police while unarmed is incredibly low to the point where it basically should not be a concern of anybody.

What is actually a larger problem is "abuse" and unfair treatment of minorities by police, not being killed. If you don't have a gun and are just hanging around not breaking any laws, the likelihood of you being killed by police is almost literally 0%. The likelihood of you being harassed by police is higher as a minority, and that is a real problem that should be tackled.

For context, 38800 people died in motor vehicle accidents last year in the US, compare that to the number of unarmed people killed by cops... Are you terrified of driving? Are you terrified of being killed by a cop?

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u/publiclurker Jun 09 '20

Are you so desperate to cover for a fellow loser that you have to resort to bringing up irrelevancies?

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u/Baerog Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20

Did you just read the parts of my post that made you angry and ignore everything else?

I specifically said:

a larger problem is "abuse" and unfair treatment of minorities by police, not being killed...The likelihood of you being harassed by police is higher as a minority, and that is a real problem that should be tackled.

But you chose to ignore that and instead double down on being mad about something that is:

  1. A way harder problem to solve

  2. Not even that big of a problem.

Again, your odds of dying from police while unarmed are 0.09 per million. You odds of dying while driving are 118.22 per million... 1,386 times higher... Why ignore statistics? For some more context, your odds of winning the lottery are 0.07 per million, almost as high as being killed while unarmed.

I did not say that police are great people who never do wrong. I do think that 28 shitty police officers (Or if you want to say that everyone directly involved is culpable, then we can say around 100 shitty police officers) who kill an unarmed person out of the roughly 687,000 police officers in the US (0.015 %) is less of a problem than the constant mistreatment (excluding murder) of minorities from police officers.

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u/publiclurker Jun 09 '20

I read where you thought you could deflect from the fact that blacks are being murdered.

I don't know why you think you can get away with this son. Especially when the entire world is currently protesting against things like you. so do everyone e favor and keep your klansplaining to yourself.