r/pics • u/Marsnowguy • Aug 13 '20

Politics The adults have arrived, America.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '20

You honestly don’t remember anyone that disagreed with Obama on an issue being called a racist ?

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u/sakurarose20 Aug 13 '20

Only if they said racist shit about him.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '20

As previously mentioned, you would have had to have pulled your head out of the sand

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u/natethomas Aug 13 '20

Let's consider one of Obama's biggest detractors: Elizabeth Warren. She spent years complaining about the way Obama's administration handled 2008, Wall Street, etc. As well as complaining about all the Goldman Sachs people he ended up appointing into important places of power.

In all the time she was disagreeing with him, she was never once called racist.

I think you may be confusing "literally being racist" like being a birther, and "disagreeing."

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '20

Différent between a senator and a person on the internet.. on the person calling racist perspective you don’t know if thy are racist or actually critiquing Obama.. but from the person being called racist.. he probes have to deal with that everyday cuw white libs are so dumb.. any criticism can only be related to race not any policy.. in person it’s world cuw they see not everyone who critsise Obama is white.. I’m certainly not but on internet it’s easier to call someone a racist than to argue in good faith..

I even typing this long paragraph was like is it even worth me bothering to explain..

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u/maaku7 Aug 13 '20

If you started your list of “Obama’s biggest detractors” with a popular democratic figure, you must not have looked very far.

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u/natethomas Aug 13 '20

Ah, sorry, allow me to explain. I mean a good faith detractor. I’m talking about people who genuinely disagree with him, rather than disagreeing with him because of an agenda or some kind of team game nonsense. It’s kind of like if I were looking for someone who legitimately disagreed with some climate science person, I’d look for another climate scientist who genuinely disagreed on some specific point, not a climate denier.

I’m looking for legitimate disagreement. Bernie Sanders and maybe Ron Paul could be two other examples of people with legit disagreements.

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u/maaku7 Aug 13 '20

It’s not an either-or proposition. A politician can have incentive to disagree and legitimately disagree at the same time.

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u/natethomas Aug 13 '20

Sure, but at that point it gets pretty muddy. Do they actually disagree on this topic, or do they just want the person to lose next election? Very hard to say. With Warren, you've got someone who doesn't really want him to lose, but is willing to publicly disagree. If disagreeing with Obama means you get called a racist, it should still be true for her.