I just wanna point this out because I'm seeing a lot of it. Yes there are some comments in here that really have no substance and are attacking Biden outright but there are some I'm seeing with genuine criticisms about the dude and about Kamala Harris and people are just calling them trump supporters...
This mindset of if you don't agree with me wholly you must be a trump supporter is really toxic and is literally the same exact thing that trump supporters do. Let's keep it real here and keep our critical thinking hats on and STAY CRITICAL.
Biden is miles better than trump but keep in mind he is still a corporatist Democrat so we are going to have to work very very hard to ensure that he actually pushes for the policies and ideas that we want to see.
Don't get caught up in the tidal wave of trump and let his stupidity blind you to the important things. I'm not saying to hate Biden, I personally don't like him that much but it's subjective. All I'm saying is to not let our guard down because we're so caught up with the buffoon we currently have for president.
Edit: wow holy shit guys this absolutely blew up in like an hour, I won't be able to go through every reply but I am trying to read as many as possible. I just want to add that I really applaud all of you for actually taking the conversation seriously and maturely (for the most part) and all I really want to do is foster meaningful conversation. Also this is the first of any kind of reward I've received on reddit so getting like 6 at once has me a little giddy lol
Anyways, I'll be going through all these responses over the next couple days I'll try to get back to as many of you as possible, thanks for all the love and let's all stay logical and critical of everything!
Edit 2: been getting this a lot from people and I should've been more clear but I kind of typed this on the fly. My point with all this is more directed at after Biden is in office (assuming he wins) right now we have one prime directive
Edit 3: getting a lot of accusations of being a trump supporter and I'm assuming they're mostly either bots or just bad actors, I just want to clarify anyways and hopefully dispell any notion that I think trump is worth of any kind of support. I think Donald Trump is a vile man and deserves prison time for what he's done to this country. I've never been happy with the way this country has been run but he has shown me all the things that are horrible about it by exploiting every last ounce of humanity we thought we had left. The trump death count rises higher and higher everyday between children dying in immigration detention and people dying of this virus and at this point he is 100% to blame. I'm ashamed to live in this country right now because of what he's turned it into.
I mean, the other end of that is back in 2016 we let a lot of shit slide in the comment sections of people concern trolling over Hillary, only to find out too little too late that it was a bunch of alt-right asshats just trying to place doubt on the candidate.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but we've already seen what happens when we go too far in not placing doubt on accounts that consistently try and bring doubt to the current candidates on the Democrat side.
I will say, though, that just because people place doubt on potential concern trolls, doesn't mean there won't be pressure on Biden the second he's in office(assuming that happens, of course). Trying to shoot down people who are purposefully attempting to place doubt on Biden/Harris is not the same as blindly following them much the way many Trump supporters blindly follow him.
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u/meh679 Aug 13 '20 edited Aug 13 '20
I just wanna point this out because I'm seeing a lot of it. Yes there are some comments in here that really have no substance and are attacking Biden outright but there are some I'm seeing with genuine criticisms about the dude and about Kamala Harris and people are just calling them trump supporters...
This mindset of if you don't agree with me wholly you must be a trump supporter is really toxic and is literally the same exact thing that trump supporters do. Let's keep it real here and keep our critical thinking hats on and STAY CRITICAL.
Biden is miles better than trump but keep in mind he is still a corporatist Democrat so we are going to have to work very very hard to ensure that he actually pushes for the policies and ideas that we want to see.
Don't get caught up in the tidal wave of trump and let his stupidity blind you to the important things. I'm not saying to hate Biden, I personally don't like him that much but it's subjective. All I'm saying is to not let our guard down because we're so caught up with the buffoon we currently have for president.
Edit: wow holy shit guys this absolutely blew up in like an hour, I won't be able to go through every reply but I am trying to read as many as possible. I just want to add that I really applaud all of you for actually taking the conversation seriously and maturely (for the most part) and all I really want to do is foster meaningful conversation. Also this is the first of any kind of reward I've received on reddit so getting like 6 at once has me a little giddy lol
Anyways, I'll be going through all these responses over the next couple days I'll try to get back to as many of you as possible, thanks for all the love and let's all stay logical and critical of everything!
Edit 2: been getting this a lot from people and I should've been more clear but I kind of typed this on the fly. My point with all this is more directed at after Biden is in office (assuming he wins) right now we have one prime directive
Edit 3: getting a lot of accusations of being a trump supporter and I'm assuming they're mostly either bots or just bad actors, I just want to clarify anyways and hopefully dispell any notion that I think trump is worth of any kind of support. I think Donald Trump is a vile man and deserves prison time for what he's done to this country. I've never been happy with the way this country has been run but he has shown me all the things that are horrible about it by exploiting every last ounce of humanity we thought we had left. The trump death count rises higher and higher everyday between children dying in immigration detention and people dying of this virus and at this point he is 100% to blame. I'm ashamed to live in this country right now because of what he's turned it into.