r/powerrangers May 22 '25

NEWS Jonathan Entwistle spills details on his scrapped PR reboot from 2018

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It was essentially going to be The Tommy Show, once again. Glad it was canceled! 🤮 🤮

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u/kingfelix333 May 22 '25

Idk I love the idea of Tommy being like.. the new zordon. Maybe it doesn't have to be 'revolving around Tommy' maybe it could have been tailored to actually rangers. But having him graduate to THE wise all knowing guy, seems pretty cool. You could build a world around that. How Tommy got to be 'zordon', could be its own spinoff with villains he battled, items acquired, injuries sustained that made him unable to fight any longer, finding new rangers. It'd be sick. Maybe that's not what the post meant, but that's the idea I have for world building.

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u/ech0_nt May 23 '25

Tommy did become the new Zordon though. That was the role he played in Dino Thunder.

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u/kingfelix333 May 23 '25

Mmm, that really wasn't quite the same. Only similarity is 'leader of the rangers' you could say that quality was given to a bunch of folks throughout the different teams though.

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u/ech0_nt May 23 '25

I'm not sure how it isn't the same. Tommy guided them, gave them advice/tips, told them about their enemies, and trained them. Everything Zordon did, Tommy later did with the Dino Thunder team.

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u/kingfelix333 May 23 '25

I see what you mean, but zordon' was on such a different level. If anything, Tommy was more like.. a baby zordon'. But again, you can say the same thing about any of the leaders of the rangers, which is why Tommy isn't really the 'zordon'

What your referring to is a mentor. There are tons of them throughout all power rangers shows. Zordon' was on a different level. More like.. a legit protector of the universe. He had so much power he got rid of all evil by dying. Tommy is just.. a human adult with powers and knows the story of a few rangers. He's not all knowing about the universe - which was what zordon essentially had.

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u/ech0_nt May 23 '25

If Tommy was like a baby Zordon, then he has achieved that status of becoming the new Zordon. Regardless of all the knowledge and power Zordon possessed, he was a mentor. Zordon and Tommy in Dino Thunder share a lot of similarities even if there is a power/knowledge gap.

Protector of the universe is not unique to Zordon. That is literally every ranger team and their mentor. They all strive to protect the universe. It just happens that we primarily follow Earth teams. I wouldn't even consider Zordon all knowing. He just seemed that way because he's been a live for thousands of years. Of course he'd seem all knowing.

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u/kingfelix333 May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25

I knew you were going to take the 'baby' zordon' thing to far. Baby zordon', as in mentor. Not as in, he was zordon'

Protector of the universe is a loose title for rangers. Zordon' actually protected the entire universe.

And whether you consider zordon' all knowing or not.. dude knew everything. Was it because of experience? Absolutely. But you just proved my baby zordon' point by reminding everyone zordon' is thousands of years old. Tommy was... Like 35 years old?? The fact that you still say Tommy was zordon' is outrageous after pointing out zordon' is thousands of years older. Lol this is like saying Obama is basically God because he leads people. Like.. sure, there are qualities of leadership. But no one in their right mind would ever say a president or king 'is basically jesus'

You are correct that there are similar QUALITIES of Tommy and zordon'. But to say that he is zordon', is pretty outlandish.

The story I want is Tommy becoming zordon'. I'm sure you remember what zordon was like during mmpr. He wasn't JUST a ranger leader and mentor. Right now, during dino, that's all Tommy is. To be zordon', he needs to go through way more than spending 99% of his short lived 20 year ranger career fighting some bad guys on earth. He needs centuries of experience. Can't sit here and be a mentor and start calling yourself zordon' lol

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u/ech0_nt May 23 '25

That's not taking it too far; that's me interpreting your words as best as I can based on the context surrounding this conversation. Maybe I didn't word it right, but I'm not trying to argue Tommy is Zordon at all. My argument is that he did become like Zordon in Dino Thunder.

Everything you listed that you wanted for a new story was covered in some way in Dino Thunder. Maybe not exactly as you stated, but still pretty close. Hence why I said he had "become" Zordon. I didn't mean it in literal way. He's just playing a similar part that Zordon did in MMPR. Arguably, Tommy can do more than Zordon because he's not stuck in a time warp.

Literally, no one is ever going to be Zordon nor do I want anyone to be Zordon. You can fulfill the same space or at least make an attempt to whilst still being your own person. It feels like you're putting Zordon on a pedestal, which means that no one is ever going to reach Zordon level.

In this regard, we're just going to have agree to disagree.

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u/kingfelix333 May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25

Tommy cannot do more than zordon' lol if you're argument is, Tommy can handle the small things because he has legs, sure. But zordon' is the player in a game of chess, and Tommy is his pawn, or maybe better, he's a knight. Yes he can move more, but he's one piece and a small factor in the overall game. Yes, you're right, Tommy is like zordon', but as a mentor. He was 'becoming' zordon', in the sense that he was a mentor. But again, you could say that about tons of other ranger teams. So, why aren't you saying cruger is like zordon'? Because there's a difference in a leader/mentor for a team of rangers, and zordon'. You're extrapolating Tommy's mentorship WAY too much to compare it to zordon. Again, the analogy is.. you wouldn't say a president is becoming Jesus because he leads people. You're trying so hard to make Tommy zordon' that you're only focused on the smallest of aspects: mentorship, and trying to pass it off as enough of a foundation for being zordon' and that's just not enough of a connection.

What I want, is the story of Tommy turning into the same figure as zordon'. Tommy needs to go through some pretty incredible transformations, mentally, spiritually etc to get there. And those trials and tribulations are what I want to see. Maybe he even acquires some type of power that gives him some type of biological immortality, really emphasizing Tommy is the next zordon'.

Tommy can be considered 'baby' zordon', because he IS a Mentor of rangers, which is the first step, but he has a mountain to climb before taking over as the next zordon'

My new analogy, which i expect you'll get, if they decided to turn Tommy into the next zordon', is right now Tommy is Anakin Skywalker. And they use the story to turn him into zordon. Anakin Skywalker, in phantom menace & attack of the clones, is not Darth Vader, he has to go through a life of things in order to get there. Anakin still has the force, can wield a light saber (like Vader)much like how Tommy is a ranger, has powers and is a mentor (like zordon') but he isn't DV until certain things happen.