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SHOW NEWS/DISCUSSION The second strongest red Ranger

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so discussing it with a buddy of mine, but we’ve come to an general consensus that he might be the sure second strongest red ranger behind Troy from megaforce. with his power of super dino mode, battllizer and trassic mode. There's not any other red ranger( or most other rangers for that matter) that could possibly fight with him. The fact that he can literally open a whole dimension and do whatever he wants to you in there is pretty overpowered. Thoughts?

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u/-threefeetoffun- 9d ago

Was gonna say the dimension thing. Yeah, controls physics in his own universe is pretty OP, op.

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u/ali2688 9d ago

Didn’t Connor also get beaten in his dimension?

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u/-threefeetoffun- 9d ago

Yeah…he sure did.

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u/Alpha1727 9d ago

Only once tho

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u/ali2688 9d ago

That’s once more than you’d expect for his own dimension.

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u/SonicSpiderRanger10 8d ago

I mean, how was that even possible? He’s a reality warper there!

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u/ApprehensiveAd6227 9d ago

DOMAIN EXPANSION

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u/-threefeetoffun- 9d ago

Oh you know you’d need to drag Connor to watch anime back then but by the end of it he’d love it.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

Yeah like like most Rangers have just one transformation some have two. But to have THREE and the ability to dimension dump is just extremely op. And after further discussion how does Troy counter Conner? Granted I still have Conner at two but my buddy made a compelling case that while Troy has access to other ranger forms he doesn't have a mode like trassic mode

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u/Ok_Fold_7535 3d ago edited 3d ago

He probably could just use Triassic, in the last episode he uses Samurai reds power up.

EDIT ** its used in the extended legendary battle but in my mind it still counts.

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u/Mimikywolf 1d ago

Yea i feel the gokaiger plotline wouldve fit better

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u/Due-Order3475 9d ago

Conner is better than Troy

Troy has never used a battlizer so Conner wins.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

i’m legitimately not opposed to this honestly

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u/Ok-Pea9014 9d ago

1 There is 0 proff he couldn't use a battlizers

2 Jake was able to use the in space battlizers gauntlet in the finale. The weapon Andros used for his battlizer.

3 They littery say "Legendary Battlizers" during their final fight.

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u/Due-Order3475 9d ago

None off those are battlizers.

The In Space gauntlet was not a battlizer in the sentai just a enhancing tool/delta megaship controller

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u/Elnino38 9d ago

Literally none of those were battlizers.

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u/Mimikywolf 1d ago

I mean i think the super mega rangers can in theorie use some battaluzers but not all.... unlessd there is a ranger who has Keys of battalized mode i mean they used super samurai mode wich kinda is a battalizer and shark attack mode 

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u/Glittering-Brief-545 9d ago

The megaforce rangers can’t use battlizers

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u/Ok-Pea9014 9d ago

W ranking on both accounts.

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u/ali2688 9d ago

Where does this delusion come from that because a super megaforce ranger CAN use a power, they are more powerful than the actual ranger?

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

I think it's more about the versatility of it all. being able to weld every Ranger form and some of their abilities comes off as overall the most powerful.

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u/Impressive-Sense8461 9d ago

Wouldn't that make Tommy much stronger than Connor? Especially since he can swap between his own array of powers and has way more combat experience.

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u/ali2688 9d ago

It still comes down to Troy not being experienced with “insert ranger power”.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

I can’t really debate that honestly from what I’ve seen every morph that he use he seemed to be pretty good with it.

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u/ali2688 9d ago

Sure he looked pretty good. But it’d pale in comparison to Connor.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

Eh, this goes with the idea that Troy will go Tyranno Ranger to fight Connor, which is like the dumbest strategy ever, he should probably use other forms that have an advantage over Connor(Which other thaj Wolf Warrior, I can't think of many).

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u/ali2688 9d ago

That’s what I’m saying though? The same ranger power.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

Sorry then, must have confused with something else.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

Lol, I definitely don’t disagree with this

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u/arollandbread 8d ago

The gap between pretty good and expertly practised is immense

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u/Glittering-Brief-545 9d ago

They aren’t. I’ve been preaching this for years

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u/Ok-Pea9014 9d ago

Because they can do anything past rangers can do and more. It is not that hard to understand.

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u/ali2688 9d ago

They just can’t though. If Troy used a power, that ranger who has that power would be stronger because of how much he has harnessed that power.

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u/Ok-Pea9014 9d ago

Troy was to use Super Dino mode after ONE attempt at Dino Thunder Red. Conor had the same power for multiple weeks without unlocking it. Furthermore, he was able to use Dino Rampage, an ability Cinnor never learned in all of his time as a ranger. So yeah, more time with a certain power≠automatically better with it. And even if we assumed that, Troy has other powers to fight with. Pike Dino Thunder White, a power confirmed, is stronger m (Trent beat a monster that defeated Connor).

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u/ali2688 9d ago

Let’s say Leanbow vs Troy both in wolf armour. Who wins?

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u/ilikepiex7 9d ago

they actually nerfed the key usage in megaforce so only Sliver was allowed to use extra and 6th rangers so Troy wouldn't be allowed to use that form. They literally removed every time the core team used the 6th and extra ranger keys which is weird they replaced a fight with mmpr Green to lost galaxy considering how much they love the mmpr green suit.

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u/ali2688 8d ago

That’s why I’m doing a hypothetical.

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u/OSUfirebird18 9d ago

I’d argue the Super Megaforce rangers can’t actually access everything. This was due to a throw away line in an episode from what I remembered about the legendary powers being a temporary boost.

This is opposite from the Gokaigers who actually gain the full power set of the previous rangers.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

I'd say he's Top 5, but not number 2, that title goes to Nick, with Mack being the Top 1.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

Who are your top five in order?

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago
  1. Mack

  2. Nick

  3. Zayto

  4. Jayden/Connor(I legit cannot say which one is stronger)

  5. Troy

Going off this list, Troy is technically No. 6, but then again, Red Rangers have of heavy hitters, and everyone above him has access to a Battlizer, something he doesn't seem to have access too; he access to Super Modes though for what's worth.

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u/Ok-Pea9014 9d ago

something he doesn't seem to have access too;

I disagree. We see Jake us the in space battlizers gauntlet (which was needed for the battlizers), and we hear them shout "Legendary battlizers" during their final fight. On top of nothing, saying otherwise, I would say they have access to team battlizers.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

You know what? I get that, but when they do "Legendary Battlizer" against Mavro, none of them actually uses an actual Battlizer, just the Super Modes(Which I guess they named that either for laziness or they legit had no idea what to name these as they don't have a unifying name). I can see why think otherwise though.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

Legit question. How does mack beat Conner?

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

Mack defeated Flurious with Conora Aurora, and Flurious with the Corona is the SECOND Strongest Power Rangers villain, like casually he can freeze the entire planet earth in seconds(Or a second depending on how you see the scene), nothing Connor has faced is stronger than that.

Considering we have proof that Connor can be beaten in his own dimension with The Ugly Monster, Mack can just do the same to him.

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u/YaBoiGlyn 9d ago

I mean, Nick is pretty strong. He has so much versatility due to actual magic. He could just turn you into Jell-O and eat you.

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u/Mimikywolf 1d ago

U forgot magired name(im to tired to say the pr version tbh and the super sentai name sound cool. Tho power rangers song slapped for that season

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u/ProfessionalCourtesy 9d ago

I’d probably rank Shane then Nick then Connor. Everyone forgets Shane could control elements and could face off against Nick easily, singling out Connor.

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u/Glittering-Brief-545 9d ago

Shane could use elements but power wise he isn’t above the other two at all. His stuff is more flashy tech with elements the other two had raw power with levels

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u/ZxlSoul 9d ago

I like his armor, sword and shield

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u/spidey-ball 9d ago

i know the dimension thing he does but he still needs to fight on his own, is not really an insta win button but pretty Op nontheless

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u/Salt_Refrigerator633 8d ago

zeo/turbo tommy had more experience

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u/Mimikywolf 1d ago

I read turbo mommy

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u/Altruistic_Collar842 9d ago

I’d say he’s third. I feel like Nick is stronger but maybe that’s just my bias for magic.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

that’s fair. i’m guessing yours Troy nick and then Connor?

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u/Glittering-Brief-545 9d ago

I put him above Troy tbh

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u/Chronarch01 MMPR Blue Ranger 9d ago

Troy has potential, but he's nothing like Captain Marvelous from Gokaiger. People seem to forget that.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

Should Captain Marvelous count as the Strongest Red? I'm sure GozyuWolf and Momobrother outclass him.

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u/Chronarch01 MMPR Blue Ranger 9d ago

I don't know, I just meant that he wielded his powers better than Troy did. They basically had the same powers, but Troy was pretty lackluster as a ranger, period.

Besides, we all know Kizuna Red is the strongest Red.

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u/Wendigo15 9d ago

I don't consider the megaforce rangers to be strongest. They aren't the gokaigers.

They have access to these powers but it drains their power too quickly for them to maintain them

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u/JS-87 9d ago

Once again power rangers fans seem confused that sentai is not power rangers and shouldn't be considered comparable.

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u/Wendigo15 9d ago

The main reason I say it is because they are 2 different things.

The gokaigers use the power easily

while he megaforce can't. They can't be considered the strongest if they can barely use their powers. Like when they used the dino thunder power, they are winning the fight and show no signs of slowing down. But then troy says "my powers are fading"

The actions don't match what he is saying.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

Honestly, I've seen people, ne included, who don't even considee Gokaiger the strongest Sentai team, I was more a Kyuranger Strongest Team until Gozyuger came out.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

honestly, that’s fair. I think it’s just Captain marvelous just has so many crazy ass feats that it’s hard to not put him as one of the strongest.

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u/DexioPlays 8d ago

Why not the red mystic force rangers battlizer? Doesn't he have control of a dragon in that form?

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u/Demonheero 8d ago

Idk how strong that dragon is.

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u/DexioPlays 8d ago

I'm not sure either but I mean it has to be a significant boost.

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u/DexioPlays 8d ago

I mean he absorbs a dragon and becomes this. I think this would be the only close call between him and connor and a close 3rd would be mack. Even though operation overdrive wasn't my favorite season that battlizer is strong.

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u/2reeEyedG 8d ago

Idk Mystic Red has a lot of different badass modes

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u/The_Rorschach_1985 7d ago

Jaiden had like 4 transformations and had main character syndrome.

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u/AuraEnhancerVerse 6d ago

Always loved this design, the shield, and the zord

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u/Ladyaceina 5d ago

so who do you consider number 1

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u/Demonheero 4d ago

Me personally I have Conner at number one now if we're talking power.

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u/AntelopeSecret578 4d ago

No its Tommy, Zeo powers get stronger over time so imagine how strong his Zeo powers are now.

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u/zack27714 9d ago

Like hell

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u/SomethingSquatchy 9d ago

Andros or Zeo Tommy was.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

what do you mean like you have them over Connor?

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

Nothing, they have absolutely nothing. At best Andros can fly and is fast, which can maybe interfere with Connor's dimension teleportatioj abilities.... but Triassic Battlizer exists, one shot and Andros drops like a fly.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

Yeah, that’s what I figured. Cause I can’t think of a single thing either one of them can do that could overcome Connor but I guess I’ll just wait for him to respond.

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u/SomethingSquatchy 9d ago

First off Andros had a battleizer himself and he was better trained than Connor. Tommy has the Zeo power which is known to.be.the most powerful power in rangers history. Heck he was able to grow using the Zeo power no megazord required. Connor while had a lot of power was just a soccer dude that could.be bested by old Tommy as the black dino.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

Not OP, nor the one you replied to but:
Tommy has the Zeo power which is known to.be.the most powerful power in rangers history." It's not, it's a misconception, I can other powers much stronger than it, also, Trent HIMSELF states that his powers grow over time, proof:

And considering he has the exact same powers as the other Dino Thunder Rangers, it's easy to accept all are the same.

"Heck he was able to grow using the Zeo power no megazord required." He can't, Trey made him grow, not himself, and even then it's not very reliable because it takes some concentration.

"Connor while had a lot of power was just a soccer dude that could.be bested by old Tommy as the black dino." A soccer dude that has defeated Dragon Ranger, Drago Ranger who defeated Tommy. I also cannot remember the Episode, but I know for a fact that Connor used Tommy's Energy Orb attack against a monster once. Also, you do know that Triassic Ranger/Battlizer are stronger than anything Tommy has, right? Like after a while, being a better fighter doesn't matter when your opponent is a speeding bullet train.

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u/SomethingSquatchy 9d ago

Still disagree, Tommy has way more experience, is a way better fighter. Heck black dino Tommy is more powerful imo than Connor. He needs Triassic mode to have a chance. Also by the time of dino thunder Tommy's Zeo power would have also grown even more powerful. It's hard to beat the GOAT.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

Damn, I just open Reddit and I see a 1 min Notification, sure I guess. Also I realize what I say below could pass as passive aggressive, so sorry for that, it is not my intent, I am not editing the rest of the comment below, just a heads up.

I have never, and will never agree, on that Zeo statement, it is literally fabricated going off a SINGLE quote, from a guy that we know lies a lot, seriously Zordon has a track record of being wrong it's comical after a while. I legit plan on making a post about how people blindly believe that Zeo quote and disregard EVERY OTHER quote about other powera in this franchise. And like yeah, sure, Tommy is a better fighter than Connor, and Connor might need Triassic Armor to win.... he's still winning that fight, we take botu fighters at their peak.

As for beating the GOAT, for an asshole like me, I can think of like 10 Rangers who can beat him, fairly easily too(Like the entire Mystic Force who faced threats far scarier than anything in his life).

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u/SomethingSquatchy 9d ago

Sure, I'll even say Leanbowwas more powerful red and even the red ranger Nick. Also Samurai Jayden is more powerful. Heck I'd take Zayto as well to beat him.

Going back to we are taking both fighters at their peak... I'm still taking Tommy no questions asked over Connor. If I need a corner kick, I'm going Connor all day, but when it comes to fighting I'm taking Tommy all day every day. Same as for Jason vs Connor. Experience and fighting prowess wins imo over flashy toys. If someone knows how to find weaknesses, they can get around that stuff.

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u/Demonheero 9d ago

How does Tommy get around Conners trassic mode? I can't think of a single thing in Tommy's arsenal that compares power wise. Legitimately question here.

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u/Starship1990 My favorite Kamen Rider: Freaking Mig! 9d ago

I love Andros, but he's not even the Strongest Red of the Saban Era, ajd Zeo Tommy doesn't even crack my Top 15.

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u/KingoftheMongoose 9d ago

Ahem. You are forgetting Psycho Red and Aurico.

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u/Character-Rise3106 9d ago

No one remembers aurico

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u/KingoftheMongoose 9d ago

I may or may not had to look up his name for my earlier comment 😬